HomeMy WebLinkAbout~Master - Special Meeting of the Ames City Council 06/30/1994MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL MEETING
OF THE AMES CITY COUNCIL
AMES, IOWA JUNE 30, 1994
The Ames City Council met in special session at 12:02 p.m., June 30, 1994, in the Council
Chambers, 515 Clark Avenue, pursuant to law with Mayor Pro Tem Parks presiding and the
following Council Members present: Brown, Hoffman, Tedesco, Wirth, and Campbell.
INSURANCE COVERAGE: Moved by Tedesco, seconded by Brown, to adopt RESOLUTION
NO. 94-271 approving Alternative No. 2 to select The St. Paul Companies as the provider of
general liability, automobile, excess, and transit coverage with the stipulation that bids are to be
received, in order to be acted upon, by the second City Council meeting in May 1995.
Bob Kindred, Assistant City Manager, stated that staff met with representatives from Sentry and
The St. Paul insurance agencies to clarify questions and issues. A sheet was distributed
summarizing the two proposals. The questions was raised concerning whether The St. Paul
insurance could be audited at the end of the year which would result in additional cost. The
answer was no, both policies are non-auditable. Everything quoted on the policies are firm
quotes, except for the auto. Both policies include employee benefit coverage as well. The
underlying coverage in the Sentry policy is $500,000 the excess is an additional $5,000,000.
The underlying coverage under The St. Paul proposal is $1,000,000. The question was raised
whether there was an intentional axe provision included in the automotive coverage. The answer
to that was yes, and it was included in both policies.
One discrepancy was found in the two proposals, that being the number of vehicles in each. The
St. Paul proposal had 206 vehicles quoted, and the Sentry proposal had 179 vehicles quoted.
The Sentry premium is less, and The St. Paul premium would need to be adjusted downward to
account for the smaller number of vehicles.
Staff sent out specifications and requested proposals for the Transit fleet coverage from four
markets independent of the quotation received from Sentry and The St. Paul. Staff received
proposals back from those markets, but they were rejected as the companies could not meet the
basic qualification of being an A-rated carrier. The incumbent transit carrier, Progressive, did
furnish a renewal bid. Currently, there is an aggregate of $5,000,000 under Progressive, and The
St. Paul proposal is for $6,000,000. It is impossible to quantify the dependability and
relationship with Sentry. The St. Paul has offered a three-year policy guarantee to counter.
In summary, the three main considerations before Council are: 1) Coverages were not bid on the
open market, since this was the “off year.” Therefore, bidding has not been opened up to all
interested parties. This raises the issue of fairness with other potential bidders, and also raises
a question as to whether the most competitive proposal has actually been received. 2) Staff
believes that the relationship with incumbent carriers is a very important, non-quantifiable
factor. Sentry Insurance, in particular, has provided these coverages for 12 years, and has stayed
with the City through difficult times in the commercial insurance market. 3) Balanced against
the above factors is the potential dollar savings under The St. Paul Companies’ proposal. It is
difficult to ignore these potential savings when the coverages offered are essentially the same
as those offered by the incumbents. In addition to the potential cost savings, The St. Paul
proposal also includes higher coverages.
Mr. Schainker stated that they were trying to get a second option for the Council to consider,
now in a matter of fairness, feels the proposal by The St. Paul should not be thrown out. Sentry
now has offered a reduction in premium and The St. Paul has now offered a three-year
guarantee. Proposals have been modified since submitted and feels the original proposals should
be the ones to be considered. It will be up to the Council to decide on that issue.
Council Member Brown: Why did we not have a proposal at least 90 days prior? Mr. Schainker
replied there had never been a problem before with incumbents not submitting bids on a timely
basis.
Council Member Tedesco: Stated he met with the proposers yesterday and wanted to reiterate
that when he ran for Council, he took himself out of the bid situation in the insurance profession.
It became evident, in this case, there was concern that the renewal quotation from Progressive
(who had the transit coverage, because Sentry would not cover it) was dragging their feet. Staff
felt they needed to locate an additional source if that coverage was not going to be provided.
That is how Gateway was contacted and the proposal was submitted. In all due respect that is
a reasonable and prudent way for the staff to practice. We need to lay some perimeters for next
spring, and look at the package again, after the budget is certified, so it can be dealt with at the
second Council meeting in May 1995.
Mayor Pro Tem Parks: Are we still looking at a reduction of changing 206 to 179 vehicles for
The St. Paul if we accept that proposal? Mr. Kindred stated that is always subject to audit, but
179 is probably the correct figure.
Mayor Pro Tem Parks: Was pleased for the clarification of the situation and feels we were
compelled to go after some kind of coverage.
Mr. Kindred explained that because the companies were dealing with different numbers of
vehicles, the original quotes on auto coverage varied. Both companies were given a list of
vehicles so each company could review. Sentry came back with an estimated credit that should
be added on top of approximately $48,000. The St. Paul did the same and came back with an
$8,000 credit.
Council Member Tedesco: The confusing point is that The St. Paul is bidding every city vehicle-
including the Transit system. Sentry is only dealing with city vehicles excluding the buses.
Rick Hugdahl, representing Sentry, gave a short history of why Sentry took the City’s business
and why they have kept it. He gave instances of City happenings and what they have done to
overcome the bad claims. He referred to a handout with the background on the City’s policy
history. He asked for the opportunity now to bid in a bid situation.
Council Member Tedesco: As a long-term client and customer, I somewhat resent that after the
meeting yesterday, you now want to reduce that price of $20,000 because “we never asked.”
Mr. Hugdahl responded that any year there is not a bid, the Risk Manager is asked what the
premium would be. In order to save the business, sometimes it is undercut. The City is a good
account for Sentry, and Sentry has been good for the City.
Council Member Wirth: I am not comfortable with the process and will not vote for a change.
I would continue to go with Sentry for one year.
Mr. John Langeland, owner of Gateway Insurance Service. We were not seeking the bid to the
City this year. We were asked to help solve a problem, and we asked what the parameters were.
Those parameters were that we come in with a bid equal to or better than what existed in
coverage and price. The vehicle discrepancy came from the fact that the total account was being
looked at including Cy-Ride. His quote included a bus that was not included in Progressive’s
bid. He thanked staff and Council for considering their proposal.
Council Member Hoffman: Asked Ms. Judy Parks, Assistant City Attorney, if the City was at
any risk if The St. Paul was accepted. Ms. Parks responded there would be no problem.
Roll Call Vote: 5-1. Voting Aye: Campbell, Parks, Brown, Tedesco, Hoffman. Voting Nay:
Wirth. Resolution declared adopted, signed by the Mayor, and hereby made a portion of these
minutes.
Council Member Hoffman left at 12:30 p.m.
DEPOT DEVELOPER’S AGREEMENT: Moved by Tedesco, seconded by Wirth, to adopt
RESOLUTION NO. 94-281 amending Depot Developer’s Agreement to allow lender to assign
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lease to new developer in the event of a foreclosure; and, to allow developer until August 1,
1994, to satisfy loan commitment/equity requirements.
Mr. Schainker explained that good things have happened since the last meeting. The developer
has engaged the services of an architect, plans are complete, permits and site plans have been
reviewed by the City staff, and permits have been issued. Before we release the site, the
developer and the city wanted to make sure equity was in place. The deadline was July 1 and
Brenton Bank has signed a loan commitment with Hubbell Company for this project. However,
some changes have been presented by the bank and the following material items will need to be
resolved by August 1, 1994. The Development Agreement will need to be amended to allow for
the assignment by the bank of the Developer Agreement following foreclosure without the
consent of the City, (ii) we will need to agree upon the form of Hubbell Realty Company’s
guarantee, (iii) we will need to obtain a title opinion showing that the City of Ames has good and
merchantable title to the property and that the property is free and clear of liens and
encumbrances, and (iv) we will need to obtain a legal opinion with respect to the actions taken
by the City with respect to the Development Agreement and that the agreement and the lease are
in full force and effect and are legally binding obligations of the City.
Mayor Pro Tem Parks: When was the last modification and extension of this proposal?
Mr. Schainker replied there was never a language change and the last extension was May 24.
Discussion was held regarding the provisions for the development of the property and it was
stated that close to 65 percent of the project was committed with a lease at this time.
Mayor Pro Tem Parks: I have not seen the final revised plans showing the project lessened by
dropping the wings on the Depot building. The architect brought forward plans for his review.
Council Member Tedesco: When will the dirt be turned? Mr. Rick Tollakson replied that
ground-breaking will be in two weeks and is expecting everything to go well. The abstracting
has been dragging on as there was a loop-hole as to who was going to do it. It is taking a little
more time than anticipated.
Council Member Tedesco: I will support this, however, this has been going on a little too long.
Mayor Pro Tem Parks: Will support now, but this is the last extension he will support.
Roll Call Vote: 5-0. Resolution declared adopted unanimously, signed by the Mayor, and hereby
made a portion of these minutes.
Council Member Brown: Despite the delays, it will be a much nicer project.
COMMENTS: Council Member Parks: We walked along the railroad tracks this morning. A drive
took place on the tracks from Top-O-Hollow to 9th Street; with a walk back, and video-taping.
Riding the rail did give an interesting perspective. A representative was present from the
neighborhood group, a representative from Ralph Rosenberg’s office, himself, City staff and
staff from the railroad. There are some significant safety problems the railroad is not willing to
compromise on. The intersection at 13th is the most severe, and the 20th Street intersection is
of concern. The primary concern is the growth around the track and the visibility at
intersections. A letter will be hand-delivered to residents of the adjacent areas identifying the
problems and that the railroad will be working in that area. The City needs to make a decision
regarding liability and what the costs might be. The railroad would like a determination made
by the 1st of August. The fencing will not be touched at this point. The stressed concern of the
railroad was the hazard problems at the intersections.
Council Member Brown left at 12:45 p.m.
Council Member Campbell: When you talk “we” in terms of trimming trees—are you meaning
the City? Mayor Pro Tem Parks replied that he is not speaking for “us as a City.” He does mean
the City in the respect that there are some things that we might want to do, but it would have to
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be voted on by the City Council. Agreements do need to be reached and hopefully some
progress is being made.
Mr. Schainker: Mr. Al Raby, LUPP, will be in town the week of July 12, 1994. It may be a good
time for a meeting with him, Planning and Zoning, and the City Council. There is a meeting on
July 12 1994. Would you be willing to have a workshop with him starting at 5:00 p.m.? It was
agreed to have a workshop at that time.
Council Member Tedesco: There was a nice crown at the park. This is an excellent program and
suggested to Ms. Nancy Carroll that she might want to consider a session at the park in the fall.
Council Member Campbell: Complimented the police regarding the action they took regarding
the standoff situation.
Mr. Schainker stated it was a joint venture for all law enforcement organizations, and they
worked extremely well together and the situation was handled very professionally.
ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 12:55 p.m.
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Jill Ripperger, Acting City Clerk John Parks, Mayor Pro Tem
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Ginger Jones, Recording Secretary
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