HomeMy WebLinkAbout~Master - Regular Meeting of the Ames Conference Board and Regular Meeting of the Ames City Council 01/27/2004MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE AMES CONFERENCE BOARD
AND REGULAR MEETING OF THE AMES CITY COUNCIL
AMES, IOWA JANUARY 27, 2004
REGULAR MEETING OF THE AMES CONFERENCE BOARD
The regular meeting of the Ames Conference Board was called to order by Chairperson Ted Tedesco
at 6:00 p.m. on January 27, 2004. Present from the Ames City Council were Cross, Goodhue,
Goodman, Mahayni, Vegge, and Wirth. Story County Board of Supervisors present were Clinton,
Halliburton, and Toms. Representing the Ames School Board were Snell and Dilla. The Gilbert and
United School Districts were not represented.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Moved by Goodhue, seconded by Clinton, to approve the minutes of
the January 28, 2003, Conference Board meeting.
Vote on Motion: 3-0. Motion declared carried unanimously.
DISCUSSION OF CITY ASSESSOR’S BUDGET PROPOSALS: City Assessor Richard Horn
advised that the software that is currently being used for residential appraisal was discontinued
several years ago and is no longer supported. In addition, the software does not integrate very well
with other databases or the GIS system, and they are hoping to purchase new software at a cost
of approximately $40,000. The other budget issue is their request to make the GIS Coordinator
position full-time; a 28E Agreement is pending approval of the Ames Conference Board and Story
County Conference Board.
Council Member Cross advised that the Mini-Board met with Mr. Horn. They were given a very
thorough report and advised of the increased demands for service being placed on the City
Assessor’s Office.
Regarding legal fees, Mr. Horn stated the Ames City Manager has requested consideration of the
Assessor’s Office reimbursing the City for the City Attorney’s time spent defending assessment
appeals. Mr. Horn advised that the City Attorney has represented them very well in all past
appeals; there has been no reason to hire outside legal counsel.
Moved by Clinton, seconded by Goodhue, to approve the recommendations of the Assessor’s
report.
Vote on Motion: 3-0. Motion declared carried unanimously.
Moved by Wirth, seconded by Clinton, to receive the proposed budget (adoption of budget will
occur after the hearing on the proposed budget is held).
Vote on Motion: 3-0. Motion declared carried unanimously.
Moved by Wirth, seconded by Clinton, to set 6:30 p.m. on February 24, 2004, as the date of public
hearing on the proposed FY 2004/05 City Assessor’s budget.
Vote on Motion: 3-0. Motion declared carried unanimously.
ADJOURNMENT OF CONFERENCE BOARD MEETING: The Conference Board meeting
adjourned at 6:22 p.m.
REGULAR MEETING OF THE AMES CITY COUNCIL
The Ames City Council met in regular session at 6:25 p.m. on the 27th day of January, 2004, in the
City Council Chambers in City Hall, 515 Clark Avenue, pursuant to law with Mayor Ted Tedesco
presiding and the following Council members present: Cross, Goodhue, Goodman, Mahayni, Vegge,
and Wirth. Ex officio Member Johnston arrived at 6:40 p.m.
CONSENT AGENDA: Moved by Goodhue, seconded by Mahayni, to approve the following items
on the Consent Agenda:
1.Motion approving payment of claims
2. Motion approving minutes of the regular meeting of January 13, 2004, and of the special meetings
of January 20, 2004, and January 22, 2004
3.Motion approving renewal of the following beer permits and liquor licenses:
a. Class C Liquor and Outdoor Service Area - Dublin Bay, 320 S. 16th Street
b. Class C Liquor - Café Lovish, 2512 Lincoln Way
4. Motion authorizing submission of grant application to the Governor’s Traffic Safety Bureau for
funds to help reduce traffic violations and improve traffic safety
5. RESOLUTION NO. 04-016 approving City's Investment Report for the quarter ending December
31, 2003
6. RESOLUTION NO. 04-017 authorizing Finance Director, Assistant City Manager, and City
Treasurer to conduct any and all banking business for the City of Ames
7. RESOLUTION NO. 04-018 approving emergency requisition to Ames Trenching and Excavating
for water main replacement on Colorado Avenue in the amount of $35,670
8. RESOLUTION NO. 04-019 approving Agreement for Engineering Services with Earth Tech of
Des Moines, Iowa, for Rehabilitation of Runway 1/19 at the Ames Municipal Airport
9. RESOLUTION NO. 04-020 approving Architectural Services Agreement for Phase 2 of CyRide
Facilities Expansion project
10. RESOLUTION NO. 04-021 approving Agreement for Services with Dahlquist Clayworks for the
Southeast Entryway Lights
11. RESOLUTION NO. 04-022 approving preliminary plans and specifications for Dayton Avenue
Substation Modifications Project; setting February 17, 2004, as the bid due date and February 24,
2004, as the date of public hearing
Roll Call Vote: 6-0. Resolutions declared adopted unanimously, signed by the Mayor, and hereby
made a portion of these minutes.
PUBLIC FORUM:. No one spoke during this time.
NEW LIQUOR LICENSE/OUTDOOR SERVICE AREA FOR STOMPING GROUNDS: Moved
by Goodhue, seconded by Mahayni, to approve a new Class C Liquor License and Outdoor Service
Area for Stomping Grounds, 303 Welch Avenue, #101, pending receipt of Certificate of
Occupancy.
Vote on Motion: 6-0. Motion declared carried unanimously.
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HEARING ON TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS: Mayor
Tedesco opened the public hearing. There being no one wishing to speak, he closed the hearing.
Moved by Goodhue, seconded by Cross, to pass on first reading an ordinance making a text
amendment to the subdivision regulations to allow administrative approval of minor lot line
adjustments.
Roll Call Vote: 6-0. Motion declared carried unanimously.
Moved by Cross, seconded by Goodhue, to suspend the rules necessary for the adoption of an
ordinance.
Roll Call Vote: 6-0. Motion declared carried unanimously.
Moved by Cross, seconded by Goodhue, to pass on second and third readings and adopt
ORDINANCE NO. 3755 making a text amendment to the subdivision regulations to allow
administrative approval of minor lot line adjustments.
Roll Call Vote: 6-0. Ordinance declared adopted unanimously, signed by the Mayor, and hereby
made a portion of these minutes.
HEARING ON PARTIAL RELEASE OF SANITARY SEWER EASEMENT IN PALENSKY
SUBDIVISION: The public hearing was opened by the Mayor. Attorney Frank Feilmeyer, 618
Douglas, Ames, advised that he was representing the Palensky Family. He thanked the City staff
for their assistance with this matter. No one else wished to speak, and the Mayor closed the
hearing.
Moved by Wirth, seconded by Goodhue, to adopt RESOLUTION NO. 04-023 approving partial
release of a sanitary sewer easement on Lot 1 of Palensky Subdivision.
Roll Call Vote: 6-0. Resolution declared adopted unanimously, signed by the Mayor, and hereby
made a portion of these minutes.
ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2725 STATE AVENUE: Mayor
Tedesco pointed out that a letter had been received from Randy Lueth, Vice President of
Engineering Plus, requesting that the City Council waive the third reading and adopt the
ordinance.
Moved by Goodhue, seconded by Wirth, to pass on second reading an ordinance rezoning property
located at 2725 State Avenue from “A” (Agricultural) to “RL” (Residential Low Density).
Roll Call Vote: 6-0. Motion declared carried unanimously.
Moved by Wirth, seconded by Cross, to suspend the rules necessary for the adoption of an
ordinance.
Roll Call Vote: 6-0. Motion declared carried unanimously.
Moved by Goodhue, seconded by Mahayni, to pass on third reading and adopt ORDINANCE NO.
3754 rezoning property located at 2725 State Avenue from “A” (Agricultural) to “RL”
(Residential Low Density).
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Roll Call Vote: 6-0. Ordinance declared adopted unanimously, signed by the Mayor, and hereby
made a portion of these minutes.
ORDINANCE GOVERNING USAGE OF ADA HAYDEN HERITAGE PARK: Moved by
Goodhue, seconded by Mahayni, to pass on second reading an ordinance governing usage of Ada
Hayden Heritage Park.
Roll Call Vote: 6-0. Motion declared carried unanimously.
LAND USE POLICY PLAN MAP CHANGE REQUEST IN REGARDS TO REGIONAL
COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION: Mayor Tedesco announced that anyone wishing to speak on this
issue must complete an orange “speaker’s card;” come to the podium, and give his or her name
and complete address.
Council Member Goodman requested to ask a question of everyone who speaks, i.e., would you
accept a compromise that allows the northeast quadrant to be the Regional Commercial area and
be surrounded by industrial space, including the southwest quadrant. This compromise would not
allow the southeast commercial development.
James Melsa, 2001 Indian Grass Court, Ames, feels that Ames needs local amenities and strong
schools; this can only be achieved if all costs are not borne by residential property taxes.
Increased property taxes and local option taxes would significantly improve the quality of life and
schools in Story County. Mr. Melsa feels that it is important for Ames to remain a commercial
shopping destination and believes that the Council should not be in the business of protecting
assets.
Brian Heithoff, 302 North Fourth Street, Marshalltown, spoke as CEO of the Consumers Energy
Cooperative. He stated that the issue before the City of Ames is a significant economic issue for
the City, Story County, and the entire region. On behalf of the Cooperative, he urged the Council
to change the Land Use designation. He also requested that the City move ahead with a new
industrial zoning change simultaneously. Mr. Heithoff advised that Consumers Energy
Cooperative stands ready to partner with the City of Ames and the developer to make this
opportunity a success.
Jamie Wade, 3318 Ridgetop, Ames, encouraged the City Council not only to vote for the proposed
Land Use Plan Map change, but to vote for other changes in the near future that promote the
expansion of the City’s developable land and to assist developers in their attempts to expand the
City and its tax base.
Terry G. Lewis, 2216 North Dakota, Ames, spoke as the Coordinator of the Onion Creek
Neighborhood Association. He said there were no studies done, no investigation of need, and no
site investigation when the City Council originally designated the current regional mall location.
Mr. Lewis stated that this project needs to be stopped now and urged the Council to support the
recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and deny the Map change. He wants a
comprehensive study done of retail and light commercial in Ames and Story County.
Barry Nadler, 3226 Oakland, Ames, advised that he is the President of the Ames Economic
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Development Commission. The AEDC, in a letter to the Mayor in Council in June 2003, indicated
that there needed to be an increase in industrial land availability in this community and the
Regional Commercial area needed to be moved to the E. 13th Street location. Mr. Nadler said this
issue is really a matter of availability of land for development to broaden the City’s tax base. Mr.
Nadler applauded Mayor Tedesco for taking a position, understanding it, and arguing for what he
believes in; he feels this is a model of leadership for others to follow. He pointed out that people
of good conscience can disagree on issues; however, it doesn’t have to be ugly.
Donna Wobig, 2507 Hoover Avenue, Ames, asked the City Council to think about the large silent
majority in the City of Ames who would like a new mall, not just the very vocal minority who are
against a new mall. She feels that competition is good; it makes you be your best. Ms. Wobig
asked the Council to think long and hard about this decision and suggested that the City Council
ask Mr. Wolford to identify the anchor stores that will occupy the new mall.
Bob Friedrich, Jr., 3111 Bayberry Road, Ames, voiced his support of the Land Use Policy Plan
Map change. He said that moving the Regional Commercial location to I-35/E. 13th makes good
sense. Mr. Friedrich feels that free enterprise will challenge the market place with new ideas and
expansion. He believes that Ames is fortunate to have Mr. Wolford looking to bring such a project
to the City of Ames with resources to provide for the infrastructure; most local developers don’t
have those resources.
Jamie Larson, 3321 Ridgetop Road, Ames, said he supports the Map change that would make it
possible for the new mall to be built at I-35/E. 13th Street. He advised that the AEDC has
conservatively estimated that the incremental annual benefit for the Ames and Story County areas
from a new mall located at this site would be in the range of $4.3 million. Mr. Larson pointed out
that this means a decrease in property taxes and increases in the community betterment fund and
funding for Story County schools. He feels that the City owes it to the current citizens of Ames
and future generations to allow growth that will in turn make it possible to provide important
services to the citizens of Ames.
Anne Kimber, 1214 Marston, Ames, voiced her opposition to the mall. She said that she has taken
this position because the proposed new mall would not be served by the Ames Municipal Electric
Utility; it will be served by Midland Power Cooperative. Ms. Kimber pointed out that if North
Grand Mall were expanded or if the mall were built in another location, the City of Ames would
have increased revenues from the electric utility.
Reiny Friedrich, 2513 Pierce Avenue, Ames, spoke in favor of the Land Use Policy Plan Map
change. He thanked the Mayor and Council for their service to the citizens. He feels that the
Mayor would recommend only what is best for the City of Ames. Mr. Friedrich said he supports
this change because it will create more jobs and provides for reasonable and sensible growth. He
pointed out that the Superintendents of Story County School Districts have voiced support for the
proposed Map change. Mr. Friedrich feels this is an opportunity for Ames where a responsible
developer, who has not asked for any special conditions, is taking all the risks.
Eugene Robinson, 1326 Lincoln Way, Ames, said that he was not speaking pro or con this
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evening. Mr. Robinson advised that citizens are making all kinds of assumptions. He suggests
that the City
Council go back and answer the questions, “Does the City want a regional mall? Where? When?
Who?”; these should be answered before the Land Use Policy Plan Map change is discussed.
Kay Berger, 4121 Dawes Drive, Ames, said that she does not want the new mall to be built at I-
35/E. 13th Street. She said that the majority of tax payers are afraid that the City Council will take
away what they currently have and give them something that they don’t want. Ms. Berger said that
if the City Council approves the proposal, they will have ignored the recommendation of the
Planning and Zoning Commission, the findings of Ken Stone, the expertise of urban planners and
developers, the surveys of people, the facts presented by the “Smart Growth” group, and the signed
petitions of thousands inside and outside of Ames, those who placed their names on the ads, and
the negative letters in the newspaper. She said she has shopped at North Grand Mall for 30 years
and will not be shopping at any new mall.
Bob Collins, 24253-600th Avenue, Colo, Iowa, said that he was a Director of Consumers Energy
Cooperative. He advised that the new mall will be in the Consumers Energy Cooperative territory,
contrary to what has been stated earlier this evening. He believes that if the mall is not built in
Ames, it will be built in Ankeny. He asks that the City think of the rest of the County too; it would
be a real boon for the entire county.
Jim Popken, 920 Clark Avenue, Ames, pointed out that all persons need to be polite and civil to
each other. He asked that each of the City Council members articulate their reasoning for their
vote. After they receive all the input, he urged the Council to uphold the City’s Planning and
Zoning Commission recommendation.
Susan Petra, 2011 Duff Avenue, spoke in opposition to the mall. Aesthetically speaking, she feels
“there are very few things as visually abhorrent as the back side of a tasteless” box mall. Ms. Petra
said to let Ankeny keep that distinction.
Leonard V. Larsen, 3158 South Dakota Avenue, Ames, feels that the proposed E. 13th/I-35 mall
is the retail equivalent of a sad game of musical jobs; retail square footage and revenues will
merely be shuffled around with out-of-state developers playing the tune. He feels that Ankeny has
“lost their sense of place, put it up for sale, and closed the deal,” and he doesn’t want Ames to be
next. He urged the Council to vote against the proposed Land Use Map change.
Tom McGivern, 626 Barr Drive, Ames, said that he opposes the Map change. He referenced the
endorsement by the Ames Tribune for the LUPP Map and disputed the results of their survey that
said the greatest support for a new mall was in the young adult age group. Mr. McGivern would
like to see the land at I-35/E. 13th Street be left for industrial development.
David Gradwohl, 2003 Ashmore Drive, Ames, expressed his concerns that a new mall at I-35/E.
13th Street would have serious negative impacts on the Downtown District, the North Grand Mall,
and Ketelsen Marsh. He asked the Council to reject the LUPP Map change request. Mr. Gradwohl
does not believe the City should encourage urban blight in the nucleus of Ames.
David Metzler, 1205 Michigan Avenue, Ames, said that, contrary to what people think, change
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is extraordinarily rapid. He pointed out that 20 years from now, Ames will not be like what
anyone
might think. Mr. Metzler asked the City Council to move slowly at making a change that could
be disastrous.
David Maahs, 1007 Vermont Court, Ames, speaking on behalf of the Ames Economic
Development Commission, voiced support of the proposed Map change. He pointed out that in
1997, the Ames City Council voted unanimously to put 250 acres into Regional Commercial
zoning. This is an issue of making land resources available; the retailers will decide what the best
location is.
Roger Alexander, 2221 Storm Street, Ames, feels that Ames should make more of the commercial
area accessible by foot or bicycle. He said the proposal is full of wishful thinking – increased
commercial activity and tax revenues and property tax relief – but “that’s not going to happen.”
Patricia Negreros, 3425 Ross Road, Ames, spoke in opposition to the building of a new mall. She
feels that it is unknown if Ames wants to be a Regional Commercial center. Ms. Negreros said
that if the new mall is built, the citizens may lose what makes it nice to live in Ames. She feels
that there is more to a city that its tax base and thinks that a new mall will diminish Ames.
Ken Anderson, 523 Luther Drive, Ames, commended the Mayor for his job with this; he hopes that
the Council members will follow in his footsteps and see that Ames does need the change to the
LUPP Map. He asked Mr. Wolford to continue with this project and bring a new Regional
Commercial center to Ames.
Mary Ann Lundy, 4316 Phoenix Street, Ames, said she opposes the proposed Land Use Map
change. She feels that the land south of Interstate 35 and east of 13th Street poses a unique and
valuable asset to Ames because of its proximity to the interstate and rail lines; it should be
reserved for industrial growth.
Julia Apple-Smith, 2108 Greenbriar Circle, Ames, believes that all competition is not created
equal. She said that “plopping a mall on the outskirts of Ames is not healthy competition.” Ms.
Apple-Smith doesn’t feel that the proposed mall fits the goals of the LUPP and asked the City
Council to vote no to the proposed LUPP Map change.
Terry Besser, 2036 Pinehurst Drive, Ames, said that Wolford has indicated that $337 million will
be generated in sales by 2010; however, her calculations reveal that 196,000 households would
be needed to generate that amount of sales volume based on what Ames households spend per year
here. Ms. Besser feels the tax benefits may also be exaggerated. She pointed out that there are two
other university towns with new malls: Iowa City and Carbondale. Ms. Besser said it is not
desirable for Ames to have similar experiences as those cities. She urged the City Council to vote
against the proposed LUPP Map change.
Lynn Franco, 1322 Barkley Court, Ames, said she is very concerned about her North Grand
neighborhood. She asked the City Council to take that neighborhood into consideration prior to
making this decision. Ms. Franco feels that this would cause distress to the North Grand area. She
asked that the City Council be open to the concerns of the citizens of Ames. Ms. Franco would
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like to see Ames grow through increased industries.
Dick McFarlin, 1101 Johnson Street, Ames, said that he was present tonight representing the North
Park Villa Homes Association. Mr. McFarland said a selling point for their townhomes is the
proximity to the North Grand mall; they feel that the Mall enhances the value of the North Park
Villa. He said that the Board of Directors of the North Park Villa voted in favor of the expansion
of the North Grand Mall. They also request that the Council endorse the Planning and Zoning
Commission’s recommendation and reject the proposal for a LUPP Map change.
Frank VanderBroek, 439 N. Waters Street, Madrid, Iowa, said that he works in maintenance at the
North Grand Mall. He commended the Council for their willingness to represent the citizens of
Ames and hopes that they will stay loyal to their commitment to represent the people of Ames.
He suggested that they visit with their constituents, call them on the phone, and listen to them.
Gerald Johnson, 21478 - 570th Avenue, Ames, advised that he is the abutting land owner to the
north of the proposed development. He said that a marsh covered with plastic bags is a “plain old
dump.” He commented on the staff’s statement about drainage. He pointed out the waterways in
the subject area, as he believes that there are waterways across the land to the south. Mr. Johnson
said he computes that there are about 1,700 acres draining into Ketelsen’s Marsh.
Norm Marty, 3538 E. 190th Street, Ames, said there was concern when the anchor stores now at
the North Grand Mall moved from the downtown. Mr. Marty said that the building of a new mall
will improve North Grand Mall and force them to make some improvements that need to be made.
Ruth Jones, 2232 Hamilton Drive, Ames, spoke as the Co-President of the League of Women
Votes. She cited excerpts from the Land Use Policy Plan. Ms. Jones said that the League does not
currently have a position on the new mall. They do have concerns that the proposed new mall
would be adjacent to Ketelsen’s Marsh and believe the Marsh would be negatively affected.
Addressing minimum wage issues, the League is concerned about the stories that Wal-Mart pays
their employees below minimum wage.
Jack Troeger,1009-16th Street, Ames, said that he believes closing Central Junior High was a huge
mistake and he wishes that he would have fought back then. Mr. Troeger believes it will be a
mistake to allow Mr. Wolford to build a mall in Ames, and he plans to fight it and not give up.
He believes that if Mr. Wolford is allowed to build a mall here, it will cause the extinction of the
Ames so many love dearly.
Leonard Tipping, 4317 Stone Brooke Road, Ames, said that he is in favor of the building of the
new mall. He has vast experience in the retail business, and it is very important to maintain retail
business in communities. Citing the lack of tax base in Ames, he said that it is very important to
maintain retail trade. This retail trade also comes from Hamilton County, Hardin County, and
communities further north. Mr. Tipping took a survey in his neighborhood, going only two blocks.
He received three no’s out of approximately 30 residents. The reason for those no’s was because
they feared an increase in taxes or they currently don’t shop in Ames.
Matt Moss, 1516 Idaho Avenue, Ames, voiced his support for the new mall. He attended the
“Smart Growth Symposium” held last Saturday, but this did not change his mind. Mr. Moss feels
that there are many citizens of Ames who support the new mall.
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Paul Tunakan, 1111 Roosevelt, Ames, said that doesn’t believe that the best use of the subject
property is agricultural; he feels that it is prime retail commercial land. To not allow this change
is asking the City to remain stagnant; it means let the City grow or let the City die.
Allen Miller, 1910 George Allen, Ames, said he has some concerns about the location of the
proposed mall. He believes that 13th Street will be overly burdened if the new mall is allowed to
be built at the intersection of I-35/E. 13th Street. Mr. Miller thinks that North Grand Mall is more
easily accessible. He said that residents’ time and automotive costs need to be considered when
calculating the increased revenues projected for the proposed mall. He said that it would not be
attractive for there to be a large vacant mall in North Ames.
Peggy Faden,1511 Top-O-Hollow Road, Ames, stated that she is against the building of a mall by
Wolford Development in either location. She feels that the I-35/E. 13th Street location is better
suited for industrial development. Ms. Faden urged the Council not to approve the LUPP Map
change.
Sue Ravenscroft, 455 Westwood, Ames, feels that the $347 million projected sales revenue for the
new mall is highly inflated. Her estimated total sales revenue is $150 million at the new mall and
Power Center. According to her calculations, she feels that the sales revenues projections made
by Mr. Wolford are unrealistic. Ms. Ravenscroft asked the City Council to reject the Land Use
Policy Plan Map change proposal.
The meeting recessed at 8:22 p.m. and reconvened at 8:30 p.m.
Katherine B. Fromm, 3531 G. W. Carver, Ames, said that it is almost certain that one of the big
box stores in the proposed Power Center would be a Super Wal-Mart. She stated that Wal-Mart
workers make 33% less than unionized workers and do not have health care insurance. When retail
companies profit on the labor of these workers, many of the workers have to turn to food stamps
and other subsidized programs, and the tax payers have to pick up the bill. Ms. Fromm said that
she resents that possibility.
Jean Goodwin, 1011 Harding, Ames, said that she believes Ames has many unique traits that make
it different than other university towns. To compete, you need to create a unique environment.
As a future long-term resident of Ames, she looks forward to seeing Ames prosper, but urged the
community leaders to aim high, not replicate decisions of other communities, and vote no on the
proposed LUPP Map change.
Susan Yager, 808 Hodge Avenue, Ames, spoke against allowing a new mall to be built in Ames.
She expressed her desire that improvements be made to Campustown and Downtown. She said that
Ames is not a “cookie-cutter town,” but believes that a new mall would make Ames that. Ms.
Yager said “to grow” is to fill in the empty spaces.
Larry Kastner, 245 Todd Circle, Ames, said that he was opposed to the proposed change to the
LUPP Map. He said that the retail dollars are growing very slowly. Mr. Kastner said he does
recognize that Ames has needs that are not being met. He would like to see part of the retail area
proposed for I-35/E. 13th be moved to the S. Dayton/U. S. 30 Interchange and part of it moved to
the Southwest Area.
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Kurt Carlson, General Manager of North Grand Mall, said that his company, L & H Real Estate
Group, has invested millions of dollars in this community and would like to invest another $20 -
30 million to redevelop North Grand Mall. Mr. Carlson referenced the $1.5 million his company
offered to give to the City for infrastructure improvements to aid in development of the property
east of I-35, saying that many in the community misconstrued the offer.
Nancy Hayes, 1312 Wilson, Ames, said that she has been disgusted over the past 11 years that the
town she moved here from in Northwest Iowa had better shopping than Ames. Downtown doesn’t
have to die because there is a new mall. She also feels that it is up to the citizens of Ames to not
let the North Grand Mall set empty. Ms. Hayes believes that the people that come to support a
new mall on I-35/E. 13th Street will also support the unique stores in the downtown area . She also
stated that she is disgusted over the individual attacks that the Mayor has had to endure.
Margie Hanson, 2934 Monroe Avenue, Ames, stated that eight counties (not including Story) had
an increase of only 0.3% in population in the last census. She asked that the Council use updated
figures before making any decisions. Ms. Hanson asked that the work of Ken Stone not be
disregarded. She pointed out that the City endorses the village concept, and as such, she believes
that 20% of the City’s population are in proximity to walk or bike to the North Grand Mall.
Cky Ready,171 University Village, Ames, stated that there are many implications to be considered
before developing the land along I-35/E. 13th, such as the high cost of adding infrastructure. This
makes it undesirable to many developers. Mr. Ready does not believe a new mall would be any
competition to the mixed market that exists on Main Street. He thinks that if the LUPP Map
change is not allowed, it will not mean “smart growth;” it will mean “no growth.” Mr. Ready sees
the City of Ames’ planners as professionals. He urged that the change to the LUPP Map change
be approved.
Candy Huffman, 1102 Murray Drive, Ames, said she is against the new mall being built close to
Ketelsen’s Marsh. Ms. Huffman does not want to see the North Grand Mall close; she is employed
there. Ms. Huffman said that she has no problems driving to Des Moines or surrounding areas to
shop.
Pam Sargent, 2129 Stevenson Drive, Ames, thanked the Planning and Zoning Commission for
their vote against the LUPP Map change. She finds the new mall issue to be amusing and
irritating. To her, “it is the dumbest thing to even consider changing the LUPP.” She feels that
“Ames needs another mall like it needs another bank or another apartment building.” Ms. Sargent
said that she shops in Des Moines and Ankeny on occasion, but hasn’t seen many cars with Story,
Hamilton, or Hardin County license plates in the parking lots there.
Mike Stott, 644 Garnet Drive, Ames, said that he has first-hand experience with one town that
rejected a major regional mall and one town that embraced it. Bryan, Texas has many similarities
to Ames. It rejected a mall proposal with little or no debate by their Mayor and City Council.
College Station, Texas, welcomed the new mall; it was built, and it is thriving. The City of Bryan,
Texas, is now a bedroom community with few housing starts and old schools in need of repair. He
asked if the citizens want to see Ames be the best choice for those looking for retail and services
regionally, thus increasing the tax base to improve schools and community services. Mr. Stott
thinks that the benefits of allowing the mall far outweigh any perceived negatives.
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Michael Meetz, 20267 - 580th Avenue, Ames, asked the City Council to vote no to the proposed
change to the LUPP Map. He asked that they endorse the Planning and Zoning Commission’s
recommendation. It is time to revisit the Plan, but this time provide balanced representation and
include members of the scientific, environmental, educational, social, and religious communities.
Linda Meetz, 20267 - 580th Avenue, Ames, feels that people are no longer connected to the land.
She pointed out that the I-35/E. 13th Street is currently zoned Agricultural and is close to
Ketelsen’s Marsh. Ms. Meetz asked that the proposed LUPP Map change be rejected and the
commercial retail needs of the community be reassessed.
Martha Ann Adkins, 419 Pearson Avenue, Ames, said that she and her husband have been looking
for a city to relocate to after their retirement; however, they keep coming back to Ames. Ms.
Adkins said that she does not want to live in a town with boarded-up stores in the center or big box
stores on the outskirts. Ms. Adkins believes that several people will seriously consider leaving
Ames if the proposed new mall is allowed. She asked the Council to vote no to the proposed LUPP
Map change.
George O’Brien, 2930 Eisenhower, Ames, feels that the recent Planning and Zoning Commission
decision was wisely based on the LUPP policies, goals, and objectives. He believes that the goals
of the LUPP would be abandoned if the proposed change is allowed. Mr. O’Brien said that he
thinks that the sales revenue projections are inflated.
Jim Murdock, 1510 Roosevelt Avenue, Ames, said that he does not believe that a new mall would
bring in additional tax revenue in the short term. He talked about the use of fossil fuel needed to
process food products, which will be sold at a new Super Wal-Mart. Mr. Murdock believes that
building the new mall would be an immoral act, and if it is built, shopping there would be an
immoral act.
Leigh Ann Long, 710 Seventh Street, Ames, said that she often walks to shopping areas in Ames;
however, if the mall were built at I-35/E. 13th Street, it would not be easily accessible. Formerly
a resident of Raleigh, North Carolina, she said that she has not missed one retail establishment
since moving back to Ames. Ms. Long believes that a new mall at I-35/E. 13th Street would
negatively impact other business, particularly those in the downtown area.
Rebecca Nelson, 4580 Friley Palmer, Ames, said that, as an Iowa State University student, she is
concerned about the impacts a new mall would have on the City of Ames. Ms. Nelson pointed out
that during the summer months, approximately half of Ames’ population leaves when the students
leave. She asked the Council to postpone the vote on this issue until more studies can be done.
Jeff Johnson, 3037 Evergreen Circle, Ames, spoke as a proponent of the change to the LUPP Map.
Mr. Johnson feels this is a unique opportunity for the City. He said he is a former resident of
Mississippi and Lawrence, Kansas. Mr. Johnson advised that the mall that closed in Lawrence,
Kansas, was a strip mall much like that which exists in Story City. Mr. Johnson said that if you
were to go to Meridian, Mississippi, you would see the effects of the opportunities presented by
retail growth. Mr. Johnson said that he will urge Mr. Wolford to not just look at this location as
a mall, but to look at this as a gateway to our city. He thinks we can use the new mall, not just for
shopping, but to advertise the many amenities of our city. He encouraged the Council to support
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the LUPP Map change and introduce everyone to Ames, Iowa, as they travel the Interstate.
Jonah Katz, 3211-30th Street, Apt. D-37, Des Moines, spoke as the Community Outreach
Coordinator for 1000 Friends of Iowa. He said that he has two binders containing 2,800 signatures
of those opposing new retail development, gathered over the past 13 months in Ames and Story
County. Mr. Katz asked that the City Council reject the proposal to change the LUPP Map.
Jim Copley, 1426 Linden Drive, Ames, said that he opposes the big box mall currently proposed
by Bucky Wolford. He feels that this will eliminate the industrial use for which the land in
question is currently zoned. Mr. Copley said that it will also curtail development on the south side
of Ames. He would like to see this area rebuilt. He suggested that if development is desired in the
south side of Ames, infrastructure should be installed. If something is built, he asked that it not
just be a big ugly box; it should be something that befits Ames.
Art Fogleman, 2221 Clark Avenue, Ames, voiced his support for the LUPP Map change. Citing
the lack of parking around the Post Office, where he is employed, he suggested that, if the new
mall is built, the Post Office could be moved to occupy the space of an anchor store at North
Grand Mall. He referenced the need to take advantage of the benefits presented by the main
thoroughfare, which we have in I-35. Mr. Fogleman said that the world was built by people taking
chances and risks. He pointed out that Mr. Wolford is willing to spend his own money on this
project, and he thinks the City should support his endeavor.
Ron Smith, 2108 Greenbriar Circle, Ames, referenced the survey done by the Ames Tribune. He
said that, by looking at the survey data, it is not clear that the citizens of Ames want a new mall.
Mr. Smith requested that the City Council listen to all input, which he thinks will prove that there
is no clear mandate for a new mall. Mr. Smith does not believe that the mall proposal is a one-time
offer; there are better alternatives.
Brian Gillam, 2823 Oakland, Ames, said that the main problem with this issue is the
demographics. Mr. Gillam said that the citizens need to decide whether they want to follow the
metropolitan status that Ames has just attained or whether they want to remain a small community.
The City of Ames is changing, and there is growth everywhere. The City needs to decide if they
want to drastically change the demographics of North Ames by bringing more traffic in with the
revitalization of North Grand Mall or whether that should be kept as a small neighborhood and
bring the traffic to the outside of the town.
Todd Rueter, 1006 E. Main, Grand Junction, Iowa, said that his family owns a business on West
Lincoln Way and are property owners in the Regional Commercial area. Mr. Rueter said that his
business, as well as many others, will be deeply impacted by the Council’s decision tonight. He
said Ames will either take a pro-development approach or handicap itself and potentially lose this
project and others. Ames is a metropolitan area, and he believes allowing the proposed new
development would be a good move for the City. Mr. Rueter said that they have had very few
developers looking at the area in question, and he thinks the proposed mall is the best choice by
far.
Joe Rippetoe, 419 Pearson Avenue, Ames, proposed a five-step plan to be followed by the City
Council: (1) tell the AEDC to “get back to business;” (2) get their own retail data; (3) set firm
expectations for the owners of North Grand Mall, and see if the targets are met before they act;
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set expectations for Wolford Development to see what else they can deliver and insist on proof;
and (5) launch a comprehensive community process that looks at all three results systematically.
Angie Weber, 1423 Roosevelt, Ames, speaking as a young professional of Ames, said that she and
her husband have chosen to make Ames their home, in part due to the City’s commitment to
growth and its ability to change. She believes that changing the LUPP Map would serve as an
indication that this City is up to the challenge of growth and is willing to invest in the future of our
community. Ms. Weber encouraged the City Council to vote in favor of the Land Use Policy Plan
Map change, to embrace the opportunity, and to embrace growth..
Robert Karp, 917 Burnett Avenue, Ames, said that it is important to realize that those who oppose
the proposed change are not anti-growth; growth is not neutral. He pointed out that Ames already
has big-box retail, e.g., Target, Staples, Sam’s Club, Lowe’s. Mr. Karp said that it is also
important to note that if this proposal is not approved, Ames will not stop growing. He urged the
Council to reject the proposal.
Steve Lekwa, Director of the Story County Conservation Board, McFarland Park, said that a 600-
foot green space buffer does respond to their concern about the possible loss of public hunting at
Ketelsen Marsh in the strictest legal sense, but they believe that the increased human activity and
lighting would still have a large impact on wildlife at the Marsh and the entire wildlife area east
of Ames. If the LUPP change is approved, Mr. Lekwa urged the Council to insist that any future
development embraces the latest in environmentally sensitive design, both for stormwater runoff
and lighting. He believes that an environmentally sensitive mall or other development at this site
that encompasses as many natural features as possible could help attract and keep more shoppers
coming to the area.
Mary Wandling, 1914 Stevenson Drive, Ames, said that how change is managed and its outcome
is the issue here. She believes it would be absurd not to exercise great caution. Ms. Wandling said
that changing the LUPP may not be right at the present time. She also thinks that Ames should
not accept the proposal of the first developer simply because he is here now, might locate
elsewhere, or might be our last. Ms. Wandling said if the City Council has any reservations about
the request, they must vote to deny it.
Dan Rasmussen, 223 Lynn Avenue, Ames, is concerned with how the proposed new mall will
affect Iowa State University students. He said that the City of Ames should not expect the new
mall to bring in substantial revenues. Mr. Rasmussen is concerned that the students may have to
incur additional costs to help pay for additional CyRide routes. He asked that the City Council
reject the proposal.
Shyum Goswami, 215 S. Maple, Ames, said that the new mall would encourage student debt. He
compared Ames to Waterloo, where a new mall was built and their downtown died. Waterloo is
now putting millions into attempting to renovate their downtown. He wants Ames to avoid that
same thing happening here. Mr. Goswami does not believe “bringing in a developer from
somewhere in the South” would be good for Ames.
The meeting recessed at 9:55 p.m. and reconvened at 10:02 p.m.
Sue Crull, 817 Ridgewood, Ames, Iowa, spoke against the proposed LUPP Map change. She feels
it is all about location. Ms. Crull believes that the area in question needs to be used for industrial
uses. She pointed out that both Mr. Wolford and the North Grand Mall are asking to be trusted;
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which plan will deliver? Ms. Crull asked that the City Council postpone a decision on or reject the
proposal and that a community task force be appointed to study the issue.
Piper Wall, 912 Park Avenue, Ames, said that she wants community health growth and not
geographic sprawl. She said that she had attended the “Smart Growth Symposium” and pointed
out comparisons made at that meeting. Ms. Wall asked that the City Council follow the
recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and vote no to the proposed LUPP Map
change.
Carol Jacobs, 569 W. Riverside Road, Ames, advised that she is a downtown business owner, but
she does not feel that the mall is in direct competition with her business. Ms. Jacobs said that there
are no assurances that Ames would benefit from a new mall. She believes that the area in question
should be used for industrial growth. Ms. Jacobs believes that time should be taken to ascertain
if this is where Ames wants to go.
Jo Etzel, 2912 Wood Street, Ames, said that she is against the new mall, but she is not against
growth. Ms. Etzel said she fails to see how shifting our retail area from the center to the edge of
town encourages economic development. She does not believe that rejecting the LUPP Map
change is equivalent to granting North Grand Mall a monopoly; it is good to encourage
competition.
Eric Munn, 2928 Ross Road, Ames, offered a prospective from the viewpoint of a business owner
when a major competitor came to town, i.e., Munn Lumber Company when Lowe’s built here.
He feels that there is a way that a new mall can make the entire community stronger. Downtown
is unique, and he doesn’t see the new mall as affecting that area. Let free enterprise run its course,
and don’t make the City Council decide which businesses are allowed to locate here.
Mark Snell, 1528 Indiana Avenue, Ames, spoke in favor of changing the LUPP Map. He feels that
if the City Council does not approve this Map change, they would be rescinding the policy
decision to locate retail commercial on the east side of Ames. Mr. Snell said the City risks losing
the Retail Commercial status if they do not take advantage of this opportunity. He also feels that
competitive market pressure is eroding Ames’ status as the Ankeny retail commercial area
develops. The infrastructure system is growing more dependent, and if Ames chooses not to
embrace this opportunity, it will place greater burden on other sources, such as increased taxes.
Mary Sand, 245 Todd Circle, Ames, said that Ames residents want to keep their neighborhood
schools. She feels that the new mall threatens existing businesses and neighborhoods. Preserving
and enhancing the quality of life is important to Ames’ residents. If the City moves forward with
the new mall, Ms. Sand said that there will be many upset residents in Ames. She asked for
community-wide discussion on what the residents want Ames to be and then actively work toward
that end. She urged the Council to reject the proposal to change the LUPP Map.
Robert Dietz, 6214 Frederiksen Court, Ames, compared the community where he grew up, on the
outskirts of Chicago, to Ames. He said more competition is not inherently good, and he doesn’t
see this issue as grow versus die. Mr. Dietz believes that at stake is the viability of small
businesses, transportation issues, aesthetics, and environment.
Steve Bishop, 2609 Eisenhower, Ames, said that he sees this issue as somewhat of a peculiar
extension of the village concept. He hopes that tax abatement will not be needed to keep it alive.
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Mr. Bishop stated that before any development is done at the site in question, an environmental
impact statement is needed from someone other than local authorities.
Jeri Neal, 916 Ridgewood, Ames, said that she is speaking on behalf of the people who cannot
afford the time to be here tonight. According to Ms. Neal, this group is “pro-growth,” but is
opposed to this proposed LUPP Map change. Their vision of appropriate use of zoning and land
use is to integrate work, recreation, and living; it is not to encourage shopping in places where
people have to drive to reach. Ms. Neal said they don’t believe in using new lands for expansion
of commercial growth. They believe in locally or regionally owned businesses. She urged the
City Council to say no to the proposed LUPP Map change.
Matt Randall, 420 S. 17th Street, Ames, said that he came back to Ames because it is a vibrant and
growing community. He wants to see Ames continue to grow, and he is a proponent of the LUPP
Map change. Mr. Randall believes that City staff has done a very thorough job at providing the
facts; there is nothing that the developer is trying to pull and there is nothing that the City staff is
trying to force, and this is the proper procedure for a development of this type to occur. Mr.
Randall said that he is a member of the Young Professionals of Ames. Their group took a survey,
which resulted in 67 people favoring a new mall and ten (10) opposing it.
Holly Fuchs, 806 Brookridge, Ames, said that she supports the decision made by the Planning and
Zoning Commission to reject the proposal to change the LUPP Map. Ms. Fuchs questions the tax
revenues projected by Mr. Wolford. She suggested that there are other alternatives to Mr.
Wolford’s proposal, perhaps moving it to another location.
Whitney Sanford, 825 Clark Avenue, Ames, believes that Ames should invest in their existing
retail areas: the Downtown and North Grand Mall areas. Accessibility to those areas is a selling
point for Ames. She urged the City Council to vote not to change the LUPP Map.
Joel Geske, 2205 Timberland, Ames, pointed out that no one really knows what will happen if the
proposal is approved or if it is not approved. He said that we do have history to review. Mr.
Geske said that the mall has not changed since 1974 when he was a student at Iowa State. He
suggested that there are two opportunities being presented, and Ames can use their creativity to
make the developments to their liking. Mr. Geske asked the City Council to approve the change
to the LUPP Map change, which will allow them to take advantage of the opportunities before
them.
Joe Lynch, 3700 Onion Creek Lane, Ames, said that Ames does not need “sprawl” east of
Interstate 35. He said the case for “smart growth” is compelling. Mr. Lynch asked the Council to
delay the decision tonight and create a real plan.
James Okey, 135 N. Hazel, Ames, presented an alternative to the issue, i.e., move the location to
the intersection of Interstate 35 and U. S. Highway 30, the Southwest Quadrant. He gave the
benefits that he sees from changing the location.
Cindy Hildebrand, 57439 - 250th Street, Ames, referenced questions and answers directed to the
developer through the City’s web site specifically related to the use of permeable pavement. She
said that the information that she found on the City’s web site is inaccurate or incomplete. Ms.
Hildebrand feels that more time needs to be taken on this issue because the information is
incomplete.
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Ria Keinert, 3850 Hyde, Ames, advised that her family lives within one mile of North Grand Mall,
and she doesn’t feel that her family members would bike to the new mall. Ms. Keinert said that
it is discouraging to the merchants of Northern Lights and to the Main Street District that a
proposed change to the LUPP Map is a possibility. It concerns her that they are building a rain
forest in eastern Iowa, and the best we can do in Ames is a “sleezy” mall.
Natalie Battles, 605 Stanton, Ames, said that they moved back to Ames for the many amenities
it provides. One of the main reasons they moved back to Ames was because they didn’t enjoy
living close to big-box retail. The retail opportunities that Ames is now looking at were not the
reasons why they, as young professionals, came back to Ames.
Nicholas Magillen, 245 N. Hyland, Ames, referenced the changes in his home town of Newton
since Wal-Mart, and then Super Wal-Mart, have moved in. Mr. Magillen asked the City Council
to study this issue before making a decision.
Jean Smart, 917 Vermont Circle, Ames, said that she doesn’t care if the City of Ames doesn’t
grow at all. She said that she knows that change happens, but the citizens need to be in charge of
what happens in their community. Ms. Smart listed the reasons why she is concerned about the
visual aspects of a new mall.
Nitin Gadia, 3129 Maplewood Road, Ames, said that he believes that Ames should promote
growth. Rather than creating a big hole in North Ames, he believes that they should just build on
what they have. Mr. Gadia stated that he does not see a problem with the offer of $1.5 million
made by L & H Developers.
Ed Fallon, 1321 Eighth Street, Des Moines, Iowa, representing the 1000 Friends of Iowa, said that
the proponents of the new mall are encouraging the City to think regionally. He urged the City
to think internationally. Mr. Fallon said that Ames has cultural appeal. He feels that a new mall
on the Interstate is going to have a devastating effect on Ames.
Shellie Orngard, 928 Burnett Avenue, Ames, asked if retail commercial is developed, for whom
would it be done. Ms. Orngard believes that the City Council should integrate Ames citizens into
the process. Ms. Orngard asks the City Council to work with the citizens of Ames to define what
they want Regional Commercial to look like.
Marlene Robinson, 1326 Lincoln Way, Ames, stated that she is not opposed to change, but she
also likes things to stay the same. She would like to see responsible well-thought-out change,
rather than change brought about by an out-of-state developer who wants to make a lot of money.
Ms. Robinson said that she visited the Jordan Creek Mall site and Ankeny, and she wouldn’t like
to live anywhere near there. Ms. Robinson urged the City to support the recommendation of the
Planning and Zoning Commission and reject the change to the LUPP Map.
Council Member Wirth thanked the citizens of Ames and the surrounding areas for their input. She
explained the conclusions that she has drawn throughout this process.
Ms. Wirth said that she does not believe a 600' green space buffer south of the Ketelsen Marsh is
adequate protection. It appears to her that there are a number of environmental impact issues that
need further study. She said the City must look at the total watershed. The land is all
interconnected, and Ms. Wirth stated that they need to know much more about how the systems
work. Lighting must also be explored. Ms. Wirth does not feel that the City’s Lighting Ordinance
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is adequate to deal with these issues. Strategies need to be looked at if the City is to have a project
with minimal impact on the Marsh. If this proposal is approved tonight, she would propose that
the City set up a resource group of experts similar to what was done for Ada Hayden Heritage
Park.
Ms. Wirth also stated that she believed Ames should be concerned about the personality and
identity of our community: its uniqueness. She wants visitors to leave this City with more than the
image of a sprawling mall and big box retail; she wants them to know the friendliness of the other
commercial areas, neighborhoods, the beautiful University, and outstanding architecture
throughout the City. Ms. Wirth pointed out that there are a number of redevelopment
opportunities that exist. Whichever way the vote goes tonight, Ms. Wirth wants to see a concerted,
more energetic, and creative effort made in terms of redevelopment of infill parcels. She feels this
is imperative if Ames is to remain a vibrant healthy community. Ms. Wirth pointed out that this
will take involvement and serious commitment from City Hall, the economic development
community, other commercial organizations, and from individual citizens and is a very serious
challenge for all.
If the measure passes tonight, Ms. Wirth advised that it would be one step of a long process. There
is much study that remains to be done, and there are many issues yet to be resolved. The best
answers must be found and all involved must be held to high standards. Everyone must work
together in a true sense of community if the result is going to be beneficial for the City.
Council Member Goodhue thanked the public for the dialogue. He pointed out that other issues,
e.g., the establishment of Iowa State University, Mary Greeley Medical Center, and others have
been very controversial issues for this community over the past several years. This one is no
exception. Mr. Goodhue believes that there are many reasons why the Council should support the
change in the LUPP Map. He said that staff makes a very compelling argument as to why the
LUPP Map change should be approved. Mr. Goodhue pointed out the benefits that he sees as
resulting from this issue, if approved. The tax benefits are significant – for the City, a portion of
which would be in property tax relief; community betterment for human services, and for Ames
and Story County schools. He said that this LUPP Map change also opens up some industrial land
as the result of Wolford Development extending infrastructure east of 13th Street.
In regards to the environmental issues, discussion has occurred with Steve Lekwa and the County,
and the developer is also very willing to work with the City, County, and the Ketelsens on this
issue. Mr. Goodhue said he is confident that a resolution can be found that protects the
environment.
Mr. Goodhue believes that the impact will be somewhat minimal on the downtown businesses.
He pointed out that the City has invested significant amounts of money in the redevelopment of
that area, and they are not going to let it be impacted.
Regarding North Grand Mall, Mr. Goodhue believes that the Council will be as supportive as
possible of any future redevelopment of that area. He does not want this Council to limit the
opportunities for business or restrict the free enterprise system. Mr. Goodhue believes that as a
Regional Retail Area, Ames has a responsibility to continue to protect and expand this regional
retail area. He sees this as smart growth, as intelligent growth, and he indicated his support of the
Map change.
Council Member Vegge also thanked all the people who have communicated their views to the
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Mayor and City Council, Mr. Wolford, the owners of the North Grand Mall, and City staff. He
believes that there are pros and cons to this issue. Mr. Vegge gave his summary of the issue. He
indicated his support for the Land Use Policy Plan Map change for the following reasons: (1) He
supports free enterprise. It is not the job of the City Council to be protectionists. (2) There is
potential for increased tax revenues - property, sales, local option, and school. (3) I-35/E. 13th
Street is a better location. (4) The Map change is closer to the existing LUPP than what the
Planning and Zoning Commission recommended, i.e., to take Regional Commercial out entirely.
(5) There is an opportunity to design this the way Ames wants it. (6) The invitation has been out
since 1997 when the LUPP was first adopted. (7) Mr. Wolford may decide not to develop here,
but the City should have a tract of land available for Regional Commercial development. (8) He
believes that there is demand for better and additional shopping. (9) What is the message that
would be sent to the development world if the request is denied.
Mr. Vegge said he has some fears about the risks involved. He believes that the City needs to be
supportive of the Cultural District. Mr. Vegge wished North Grand Mall owners the best of
success. He would like to see them remain viable in that part of town; it may not be in the form
that they are in today. Regarding the proposed expansion of North Grand Mall, he said he wished
that they would have done that two years ago; this would not be in front of the City now if they
had. Mr. Vegge also wants to protect Ketelsen Marsh.
Council Member Mahayni stated that the Mayor and City Council have received approximately
300-400 e-mail messages over the past week. He believes this community involvement is what
makes Ames a great community, and he thanked everyone for their input. Mr. Mahayni explained
his participation in the creation of the Land Use Policy Plan, which spanned over seven years and
involved much active public participation. He said that planning is no more than a form of directed
change. Change is a fact of life. The Plan must be revised periodically due to new information,
new technology, and other factors that arise. Mr. Mahayni said that Ames is a Regional
Commercial center because of what we have to offer. The Plan recognizes Ames as such; it was
not an afterthought. He read several of the goals of the Land Use Policy Plan, which recognize
a hierarchy of commercial centers.
Mr. Mahayni addressed the economic reports received by the Council, which commonly state that
Ames is a Regional Commercial center. He believes that the City’s Land Use Policy Plan argues
for smart growth. Mr. Mahayni pointed out that when the LUPP was being created over seven
years ago, the City did not consider having a regional retail center on the edge of town to
contradict the smart growth policies that were adopted in the Plan itself. The Plan still calls for
infill development, the village concept, etc.
Environmental and design issues are very serious, and Mr. Mahayni advised that the Council has
already asked for design guidelines in commercial areas. He also pointed out that many of the
issues raised by the public throughout this process will be included in the design guideline review.
There will be further opportunities for input during the review process.
Council Member Goodman indicated that he is not in favor of the proposed change. He
commended the Mayor for his leadership, City staff, the Wolford Development, and the public for
their comments. Mr. Goodman believes strongly in his proposal for a compromise because it:
(1) provides tax base increases and sales tax revenue increases by allowing a new mall in the
northeast quadrant, (2) allows for industrial space in the southeast that has immediate access to the
Interstate, access to the railway, and has visibility to the highway. He thinks that it would be a
poor decision to not reserve that space for industrial growth. Mr. Goodman believes that the big
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box stores could fit in other locations. He thinks that it would be convenient for the regional
customer to have a mall, a grocery store, and a discount store (e.g., Super Wal-Mart) on the
outskirts of town for all of their shopping needs, but that does not facilitate travel into the
community. Mr. Goodman believes that there are ways, through compromise, to arrive at the
benefits wanted by all.
Mr. Goodman believes that Ames is a Regional Commercial Area, and it should continue to be so.
He wished that the City would take a non-traditional route to increasing its tax base; by a real
commitment to customer service and creating relationships, which he does not believe big box
stores do well.
Mr. Goodman addressed the owners of North Grand Mall, stating that they have an opportunity
here. He told them to “put their money where their mouth is, build a different kind of mall,” and
he guaranteed that at least 50% of the market in this town would be theirs.
Referencing that annexation, rezoning, and working through environmental and aesthetic concerns
are still to come, Mr. Goodman said he hopes that those who didn’t get what they wanted tonight
will continue to work towards making what we are going to have as close to the world as they
want it to be. He encouraged the public to stay involved.
Council Member Cross echoed everyone’s appreciation for the community involvement. He
addressed an accusation that had been made concerning him personally, i.e., that he is a local
business person with a conflict of interest because he works for a major corporation. He clarified
that he is responsible for government relations and charitable giving for a nationwide non-bank
subsidiary of Wells Fargo headquartered in Des Moines. It has no relationship with Wolford
Development, and to his knowledge, Wells Fargo is not pursuing any relationship with Mr.
Wolford. Secondly, because of membership on the AEDC, a couple Council members have been
accused of being part of the campaign in favor of the change. He advised that he did not attend
or vote on the campaign that AEDC undertook to speak out for the Map change.
Council Member Cross pointed out that the public may or may not agree with the staff’s
recommendations, but staff has been thorough and unbiased in their analysis and relentless in their
requests of any developer. He also stated that the public may or may not agree with the aspects
of the LUPP, but they should know that its goals and objectives were the consensus of a multi-
year, mammoth citizen input process.
Mr. Cross said that certain members of the public may or may not be concerned with revitalizing
the downtown; however, this Council is. They have in the past and will continue to give the
downtown increased priority. He pointed out that the City Manager has already recommended in
his budget message to Council that the City allocate $60,000 of local option sales tax revenue to
support the emerging Downtown Cultural District efforts.
Further, Mr. Cross stated that members of the public may or may not know that opportunity exists
for more input into the planning process. This is Step 1 of many steps. There will be an
opportunity for all to be a part of the design process, aesthetics, and environmental aspects. This
is also an opportunity for two malls, both which are owned by out-of-state interests, to compete
for retailers. This is a decision that retailers will make as they review what is attractive to Ames;
big box stores may not end up on the south side of 13th Street. The planning process that lies ahead
will be important.
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Council Member Cross wanted the public to know that their voices have been heard and their
letters and e-mail messages have been read by the Mayor and Council members. Even if the vote
doesn’t match their opinion, he wanted the public to know that their input has been, and will be,
valued.
Moved by Goodhue, seconded by Mahayni, to adopt RESOLUTION NO. 04-024 approving the
request for Land Use Policy Plan Map change request in regards to Regional Commercial
designation.
Roll Call Vote: 4-2. Voting aye: Cross, Goodhue, Mahayni, Vegge. Voting nay: Goodman,
Wirth. Resolution declared adopted, signed by the Mayor, and hereby made a portion of these
minutes.
COMMENTS: Moved by Vegge, seconded by Cross, to refer to staff the letter from Merlin
P f a n n k u c h
dated January 23, 2004.
Vote on Motion: 6-0. Motion declared carried unanimously.
Ex officio Member Johnston resigned his position, effective immediately, due to academic and
personal reasons. He thanked the Mayor and City Council.
ADJOURNMENT: 12:12 a.m. on January 28, 2004.
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Diane Voss, City Clerk Ted Tedesco, Mayor
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