HomeMy WebLinkAbout~Master - Special Joint Meeting of the Ames City Council and Ames Community School Board 09/17/2012SPECIAL JOINT MEETING OF THE AMES CITY COUNCIL AND
AMES COMMUNITY SCHOOL BOARD
AMES, IOWA SEPTEMBER 17, 2012
The Ames City Council met in special session at 7:00 p.m. on the 17th day of September, 2012, in
the Multipurpose Room of Ames High School, 1921 Ames High Drive, Ames, Iowa, pursuant to
law.
INTRODUCTION OF SCHOOL BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND CITY COUNCIL
MEMBERS: Council Members present: Davis, Goodman, Orazem, Szopinski, and Wacha. Council
Member Larson was absent. School Board Members present: Briggs, Deardorff, Espeset, Putz,
Simpson, Talbot, and Woodin. School Board President Dan Woodin explained that the meeting
would consist of a presentation of information that would update the City Council on several
major projects.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA AND READING OF MISSION STATEMENT: Moved by Putz,
and seconded by Espeset to approve the agenda.
Vote on Motion: 7-0. Motion carried unanimously.
Ms. Simpson read the Ames Community School District’s (ACSD) mission statement.
Introductions of School Board members and City Council members took place. It was noted that
Jami Larson will not be in attendance, and that Jeremy Davis will be arriving late.
DISCUSSION OF SCHOOL DISTRICT’S MASTER FACILITIES PLAN: Mr. Woodin told
the group that Superintendent Tim Taylor will review the Master Facilities Plan. He explained
that the Board is being very conscious of how many renovations will be going on at once. He
also told the City Council that the middle school will be paid off this year, which will be eight
years early. Mr. Woodin said that a long-range working plan is being laid out, of which the City
will receive a copy.
Dr. Taylor showed the working draft of the Facilities Master Plan, which takes the district
through 2017. He said last year the community showed its support by approving a referendum
for $55 million worth of revenue bonds for elementary school building construction and
renovation. Dr. Taylor said the proposed schedule is very compact, and that the Board has been
working with architects to design Miller Avenue Elementary School, which will replace
Edwards. He showed a map of the proposed school, explaining that at the center of the design
is the gym, which is high school regulation-size. He said their thinking is that Parks and
Recreation would be able to utilize it. He also said that security was very important in the
design, as well as room for “bubble classes”. He showed the kindergarten/ first grade wing, the
second/ third grade wing, and the fourth/ fifth grade wing. Dr. Taylor also explained that the
large hallways would also be used for engagement of small groups. Mayor Campbell sought
clarification regarding the entrance Parks and Recreation would use for programming. Dr.
Taylor said the main doors would be used, and there would be the ability to seal off the rest of
the building during those events. He said the Board has been very aggressive and prudent in the
design, and when construction is underway in January, then the Board will go through the same
process for the other elementary building construction and renovations. Dr. Taylor said the goal
is to have all elementary schools completed by the 2016/17 school year.
Dr. Taylor told the Council that by this time next year, the school district will be debt free other
than the new bonds. He said that consumers in Story County currently contribute about $3.4
million per year through the 1% of sales tax that goes to the district, which can be spent on
specific items including remodeling buildings and new buildings. Dr. Taylor said they have also
been looking at other projects such as the Municipal Pool, and possible athletic fields at the 24th
Street site. Council Member Goodman asked how large the 24th Street site is. Facilities Director
Gerry Peters said it is 26.4 acres.
Discussion ensued regarding the unused ACSD property. School Board Member Putz thanked
the City for providing the background information and the zoning information for the properties.
Dr. Taylor asked if the City is interested in any portion of the Roosevelt or Edwards facilities for
parks. Council Member Szopinski said she is curious about the Roosevelt property, since she
receives many opinions about making sure that something is done with it. School Board
Member Talbot said he thought the City would take the property for a park. School Board
Member Deardorff said that he would like to hold off on that until it is determined exactly what
can be done with the facility, and the Board weighs options including moving the school
administration offices there, creating green space, etc.
Mr. Putz said Edwards and Roosevelt were centers of their communities at one point, and said
he doesn’t feel that a large park is a means to retain that feeling. He also said he hopes that since
the Roosevelt building is listed on the National Register of Historic Places, that someone could
benefit from tax benefits to remodel the building. Mr. Putz said he wants the facility to be
community-oriented to retain the dynamic. Mr. Goodman asked Mr. Putz if he thinks the
building is a core piece of that dynamic. Mr. Putz said that’s a great question, and he believes
the character of the neighborhood is related to the building. It was noted that StruXture
Architects is doing a review on option for the building, and after those options are exhausted,
then it could be opened up for suggestions. School Board Member Talbot said he doesn’t want
to sit on the decision until the building falls down. He said no one has come forward since the
building became vacant in 2005, so if someone wants the building it is time for them to speak
up. He also said he wants to make sure that it is or isn’t an appropriate place for administrative
offices. Dr. Taylor said some companies were discussing preserving the building and creating
multiple residences, but the property is currently zoned for 1-2 units.
There was discussion regarding selling property when re-zoning or other land decisions needed
to be made. Mr. Deardorff said the interested party for the old middle school will have 270 days
to pursue re-zoning and other necessary changes, and if it doesn’t work out, then the party can
back out of the contract. Council Member Orazem commented that the new use would have to
be able to pay for the demolition. Mr. Putz said the wording on the contract is such that the
school Board washed its hands of the zoning issue, and that the buyer must take that up with the
City. Mayor Campbell said having the government overlay was meant to prevent surprises to
the neighboring residences and to limit land uses. Planning and Housing Director Steve
Osguthorpe said in 2007 the Council was in a similar situation, having to respond to someone
purchasing land from a governmental entity. He said there was nothing in place at the time to
define how lands could be used after a buyer purchased land from a governmental entity. Mr.
Osguthorpe explained that after seeking community input, holding workshops, seeking more
feedback, and working with the school district, a statement was created that could be used to
guide purchasing entities and the surrounding neighborhood. He said the statement included low
to moderate density housing, and at that time the School Board agreed with the statement.
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A chart was shown of the school district-owned properties, with the current Land Use Policy
Plan (LUPP) designation, and uses consistent with compatible zoning, of which most were low
to medium density residential. Mr. Talbot asked if the previous Board desired the most single
family overlay as possible. Mr. Osguthorpe said yes. Mayor Campbell said the board was also
concerned with compatibility to the surrounding area. Mr. Goodman said the Council desired
to work with the district to increase their operational revenue as much as possible. Mr. Putz said
the revenue from selling land must be used for infrastructure. There was discussion on the
projected population and housing needs.
City Manager Steve Schainker said government property also includes university land. He said
the concern with the school district at that time was that most of the growth was going into the
Gilbert School District. Mr. Putz said single family housing by itself is not a reason to settle in
a certain area. Mr. Woodin said current university enrollment does show that there will be a
need for high density residential. He also said when an offer is received, the Board doesn’t
necessarily know what the planned use will be. Mayor Campbell said there is a finite amount
of land available for development within the Ames Community School District. Mr. Goodman
said more students would result in an increase in operational funding, and asked the Board if it
has an interest in that. Mr. Putz said the Board does, but that Iowa State University (ISU) also
has an interest. There was discussion regarding the fluctuation in ISU enrollment.
Mr. Deardorff said he is concerned that the Board needs to move on the old middle school site,
that no offer has been received by developers, and that build out of that land could take some
time. Mayor Campbell said to look at the most lucrative offer is not good land use planning.
Mr. Deardorff said the Board is concentrating on how to provide the best education to the
children in Ames. Mr. Talbot said his position is that City Council doesn’t control curriculum,
and the School Board doesn’t control zoning. He said his perspective is that the Board should
send purchasers to the City for zoning questions, as the City has the zoning experts.
Council Member Davis arrived at 8:00 p.m.
Council Member Wacha thanked Mr. Talbot for his perspective, and then stated that his
perspective is that what is best for the entire community should be considered. Mr. Wacha said
it would be great if the enrollment decline that the district has seen in past years could be
prevented. Mr. Goodman said at some point the Board must decide if it is reasonable to absorb
single family homes on the largest property it will be selling during this time. Dr. Taylor said
the old middle school site creates a huge liability for the district. He also said that if the property
was sold to developers, the revenue may not even cover the demolition.
Mr. Putz said he believes there will be some K-12 students in whatever housing is built. School
Board Member Simpson said having empty properties is ugly, looks run down, and more
importantly, there is a true liability knowing that people have broken in and used the facilities
for shelter. She said no one else has come forward with an offer, and that the current offer for
the old middle school property is for $2.5 million, and the purchaser will tear down the building.
She said there are lots of factors, but among the factors being weighed by the Board are how to
best improve the community for children, receive income, and get rid of old, vacant buildings.
She said the Board does care about who is buying the property and what they will do with it. Mr.
Woodin said the Board cannot control what the buyer does with the property. Mr. Wacha said
from his long-term focus, he has concern that the existing, core neighborhoods will suffer if 900
more beds are added. He said in the case that ISU enrollment drops, it will be the core
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neighborhoods that will experience emptiness, not the new developments. Mr. Deardorff said
it is an opportunity for those owners to revitalize their properties. Discussion ensued regarding
density requirements.
Mr. Putz said he would volunteer time if individuals would like to get together to discuss
working together. Mayor Campbell said she hopes that is initiated at the staff level. Ms.
Szopinski said the discussion was very helpful. Mr. Goodman said he would like to see
opportunities proposed for the old middle school site, such as the plan for affordable housing on
the 24th Street site several years ago that would have been supported by Community
Development Block Grant (CDBG) funds. He said the old middle school site could work for that
same type of effort if both parties were interested. Mr. Goodman said more affordable housing
could be created, of which there is a shortage. He said he realizes the Board is very concerned
about moving forward, but it would be worth looking into. Mr. Deardorff said there are 270 days
of review in the contract, so these discussions could be had during that time. He also said he
would be concerned that ideas like this could jeopardize the contract. Mr. Davis said the CDBG
funds for the current year are already spoken for, and said he is hesitant to plan for future CDBG
funds since it is uncertain whether the City will continue to receive those funds.
Mr. Woodin said traffic could change specifically at the old middle school site, as well as other
sites if the use changes. Mr. Schainker said when the City develops a site, the Development
Review Committee reviews plans with the needed expertise of the City Traffic Engineer to look
at the effects on neighborhoods. Mr. Putz asked about traffic at the new middle school site. He
said buses are having trouble getting out of the middle school, and asked about a traffic light. Mr.
Schainker said the site is not warranting a stop light at this time according to Iowa Department
of Transportation’s warrants. Discussion ensued regarding the traffic at the middle school. It was
clarified that the recent traffic study was done for future traffic, as if Dotson Drive was
completed. Mr. Wacha said there is not enough traffic according to the State criteria to warrant
a stoplight at this time, and since it’s not warranted, he sought clarification on if the School
Board is asking for a light. School Member Briggs said it is the apartments, built after the
school, that is causing the problem. He said the Board is willing to put money toward the traffic
light for safety reasons, and said the Board would like help from the City. Assistant City
Manager Bob Kindred said that there are 3 east/west arterial streets in the entire community, and
Mortensen Road is one of them. He explained that as new development comes online north or
south of this major arterial, it is required that the developer do a traffic study to check trip
generations. Mr. Kindred said that when the school was built there was no need for a traffic
signal, so it was not included in the requirements. He said that the apartments to the south come
out on different points of Dotson Drive, and the question of whether or not a traffic signal is
required is asked at each intersection. Mr. Kindred explained that the five year Capital
Improvements Plan (CIP) includes any new signals that are needed, and this area has not show
up on the radar at all since it hasn’t risen to that level yet. He said that someday when Dotson
Drive goes all the way through, as the warrant analysis showed, a signal will be needed but it is
not needed now. Mr. Putz suggested staff members could get together to discuss this issue.
School Board Member Espeset asked if, when Dotson Drive is connected, it would be warranted
to have a signal. Mr. Kindred said yes. Mr. Espeset asked how that would be paid for. Mr.
Kindred said if arrangements had not been made previously for developers or others to have
escrowed money for it, then it would be scheduled into the five year CIP plan to be constructed
and paid for by the City. Mr. Kindred said that for example, if in four years, the developer of
Southfork Subdivision paved to the northern edge of the school property, that would kick in the
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contractual provision that the school district finish Dotson Drive within two years, which would
trigger the City to place the traffic light in the CIP. Mr. Putz asked how the process could move
faster. Mr. Kindred said it depends on the private property owner’s progress. Mr. Woodin said
much information was shared, and said he hopes to meet again in the future.
ADJOURNMENT: The meeting adjourned at 8:40 p.m.
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Diane R. Voss, City Clerk Ann H. Campbell, Mayor
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Erin Thompson, Recording Secretary
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