HomeMy WebLinkAbout~Master - Property Maintenance Appeals Board Minutes 09/07/2023MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE APPEALS BOARD
AMES, IOWA SEPTEMBER 7, 2023
Call to Order
Roll Call (Read by Recording Secretary Natalie Rekemeyer)
Present from the Property Maintenance Appeals Board were Rich Lepper, Rachel Norem, Patti
Engelman, Eric Fralick, Colleen Schwartz, Kristin Dillavou, Absent; Preston Kolhaas
City Staff members present were City Attorney, Vikki Feilmeyer, Building Official Sara Van Meeteren,
Inspectors, Dan Thomas, and Recording Secretary, Natalie Rekemeyer
Opening Statement was read by Board Chair Rich Lepper.
Election of Officers:
Eric Fralick nominated Rich Lepper as Chairperson, seconded by Colleen Schwartz
Vote on Motion: (5-0); Rich abstained.
Patti Engelman nominated Eric Fralick as Vice Chairperson, seconded by Rachel Norem.
Vote on Motion: (5-0); Motion passed unanimously.
Approval of Minutes
Moved by Schwartz, seconded by Engelman, to approve the minutes of October 6, 2022.
Vote on Motion: (6-0); Motion passed unanimously.
Old Business
None
New Business
Appeal Occupancy; 13.503(4) (e) at 3825 Ontario Street by Di Pei
Building Official, Sara Van Meeteren gave the Staff Report. A rental inspection was done on
6/19/23. The basement bedroom did not meet requirements to be a bedroom and cannot be
used for sleeping purposes. Occupancy recognizes three bedrooms upstairs setting the maximum
number of adults at three. The occupancy is solely based on the number of bedrooms. This is not
a home in the near campus area so if they did create a legal bedroom in the basement, they
could increase the occupancy to four at this property. Currently the tenants have two adults and
two children so they are not over occupied so the Board decision would not require anyone to be
removed from the property.
Ms. Engelman asked for clarification of the appellants statement, that two adults and two
children violates the Code as a three bedroom. Ms. Van Meeteren said the checklist stated the
following:
3 bedrooms-Max occupancy of 3
Lower level NOT approved sleeping area or bedroom that counts,
as occupancy-remove bedroom from lower level
The report didn’t indicate how many people that were there or that it was over occupied. Ms.
Schwartz stated that this seems to be in compliance. Ms. VanMeeteren stated that the Board
should address the next item first as that will determine the occupancy limits for the property.
Ms. Van Meeteren stated that this is a three-bedroom house that can have three adults and any
number of children. Mr. Lepper asked for Ms. Feilmeyer to clarify what the Board needs to do.
Ms. Feilmeyer stated that if the appellant wanted to remove the appeal on the record, she could
do that. Ms. Van Meeteren shared with Ms. Pei that if it is understood that it is a three-bedroom
house and has a maximum of three adults for occupancy, then the appeal for this item can be
dismissed. Ms. Pei said the report stated occupancy of three, appeal went forward.
Ms. Dillavou moved to affirm the decision of the Building Official based on the Code the three-
bedroom house is limited to three adults and unlimited children and has been interpreted
correctly. Ms. Engelman seconded.
Vote on motion: (6-0); Motion passed unanimously.
Appeal Bedroom Ceiling Height; 13.503 (1) at 3825 Ontario Street by Di Pei
Ms. Van Meeteren stated that the basement bedroom has a ceiling of 6’10” (2” short of the
Code requirement), the Code requires 7’. The ceiling height under duct work is 6’5” (1”
below the exception). The ceiling height at the stairs is 5’8” (8” shorter than what is allowed
under beams in non-habitable rooms). The Code requires bedrooms in these areas to have
two paths of egress, one being the egress window that was installed and the other is the
door to go upstairs and out of the unit. The entire path of egress must be compliant. These
are the requirements for a new bedroom not something that was existing. There was a new
egress window put in which triggers compliance for all bedroom requirements. This bedroom
doesn’t meet sleeping requirements, so it limits the occupancy to the three bedrooms above
grade on this property.
Questions for Staff:
Mr. Fralick stated that according to the report the City would wave some of the ceiling
requirement. Ms. Van Meeteren stated that there is a process to allow non-compliant ceiling
height. Historically the lowest that was previously allowed is 6’6” for the ceiling height. The
process is after the application process, a memo would be drafted and attached to the
property. Mr. Fralick clarified that the height of the bedroom is not the main issue. Ms. Van
Meeteren stated that the bedroom ceiling height could be administratively approved. Mr.
Fralick stated that it is the height of the staircase that is the issue. Ms. Van Meeteren stated
that the 5’8” is 8” under the Code requirement. Kristin Dillavou asked if there was a process
initiated to request an exception. Ms. Van Meeteren stated that the appeal process was the
choice of the owner. The stairway height would have to be corrected before the bedroom
height could be approved.
Appellant Comments:
Di Pei, owner of 3825 Ontario. The ceiling height is 70 inches not 5’8”. Ms. Van Meeteren
stated that it is 5.8’ or 5’10”. Ms. Pei read her prepared statement. Her main points were
that the staircase only has one step that is at 70 inches, a minimal discrepancy. She stated
that she doesn’t feel there is any scientific data to support the 6’4” requirement. She
continued that the County Assessor determined the house as a four bedroom and are paying
taxes based on that.
Questions for the Appellant:
Ms. Engelman asked when the Appellant purchased the property. Ms. Pei stated that it was
five years ago. Ms. Engelman asked if it was a rental property prior to her purchase of the
property. Ms. Pei stated she wasn’t sure. She also stated that it had been used as an office,
prior to one of the daughter’s wanted to move downstairs. Ms. Engelman stated that if it
was owner-occupied, you could use it as you wish but as a rental it does need to meet the
Code. Ms Schwartz stated that the Assessor doesn’t come into play if it is a rental, so the
assessment of the property is separate from the Rental Code. The responsibility of the Rental
Code is the owner’s responsibility. The purpose of the Board is to determine the safety of the
tenants and of the emergency workers that may need access, that one step is very
important. Safety is very important. Ms. Dillavou questioned if the property was being
marketed as a four bedroom. Ms. Pei stated that the current residents only need three
bedrooms. Conversation continued about the future marketability of the property as a four-
bedroom home. Ms. Engelman asked if in the building permit application process would a
permit for egress window trigger the company to look at the overall compliance. Mr. Lepper
stated if that was part of the initial process requested of the company but if you ask for a
construction company to put in an egress window than there wouldn’t be any further
evaluation. Mr. Lepper stated that he saw that there was dialogue forewarning of this issue
through the email thread.
Ms. Van Meeteren stated that this has become an issue so the permitting process has
changed. When someone at a rental house applies for an egress window the rental
inspectors are alerted. There were notes on the plan review that the addition of the egress
window did not create a compliant bedroom. Previously, this owner at one of their other
properties put in an egress window and were told of the list of things to be in compliance for
an approved bedroom. They understood and agreed at the other property that the addition
of the egress window did not make a compliant bedroom without the other conditions being
met. The building permit notes are sent to the contractor and may not have gotten back to
the owner. However, there were previous discussions with the appellant on another
property with similar conditions and they acknowledged that the other conditions were
required to make a basement bedroom compliant. Mr. Fralick clarified that this situation has
occurred with this owner previously. Ms. Pei stated that it was a different house. Mr. Fralick
stated that possibly at the time the house was built the intention was not to have the
basement finished and is not currently compliant.
Mr. Fralick asked if this is a safe situation. Ms. Van Meeteren stated that the Code says no, as
the ceiling height is not compliant. She added that the requirements of the Assessor’s office
for a room to be considered a bedroom is different than the Rental Code. The Assessor only
requires a window (of any size, egress not required) and a closet. The Rental Code doesn’t
require a closet. The Code requires certain things for safety purposes that the Assessor’s
office doesn’t require to be called a bedroom. Ms Engelman suggested in an effort to provide
a solution a second alternative for egress could be a door directly to the outside from the
living room instead of the stairway, if possible. Mr. Lepper stated that if the stairway height
could be resolved the ceiling height in the bedroom could be approved administratively as
it’s been done in the past. Ms. Van Meeteren shared that Inspector Dan Thomas stated that
there is more of a drop ceiling and there could be the potential for that area to be changed.
Mr. Lepper stated that with his construction experience it appears that there is a potential
for this to be resolved. Ms. Dillavou asked for clarification on exceptions that were made to
ceiling height versus under the rafter exceptions. Ms. Van Meeteren stated that she doesn’t
recall any exceptions being made for height under the rafters. The Code states the
determination can be made for ceiling height exceptions if it is functional and maintained.
The standard is 6’6” and anything under that is not a functional ceiling height. If there were a
fire smoke rises making it difficult to escape and access for emergency personnel to the
spaces. Mr. Fralick asked for clarification what the measurement difference is for the ceiling.
Ms. Van Meeteren stated that the measurement was 5’10” and would be 6” under the
allowable Code requirement. Mr. Lepper stated that under new construction rules outside
the Rental Code, 6’8” is the stairwell clearance figures. The Rental Division is being very
lenient with 6’4” for the stairway height.
Mr. Lepper asked for a Point of Order, should the Board address item B first. Mr. Lepper
clarified that administrative approval could be done if the stair height was resolved. Ms. Van
Meeteren agreed, the stair height is the impediment to bringing the basement bedroom into
compliance. Vikki Feilmeyer stated that the Administrative Approval is not for the Board only
for Building Official.
Mr. Lepper stated the Board is to approve or deny and not to design.
Motion:
Ms Schwartz moved the Property Maintenance Appeals Board deny the appeal and the Code
has been correctly interpreted and that the provisions do fully apply. The basement bedroom
would not be considered compliant and would not be allowed to be used as a sleeping area
for rental purposes. Seconded by Ms. Norem.
Vote on motion: (6-0) ; Motion passed to deny the appeal.
Mr. Lepper explained that this decision can be appealed through the District Court within 30 days
after the filing of the Decision and Order.
Board or Staff Comments
Adjournment
Norem moved and Dillavou seconded to adjourn the meeting.
Vote on motion: (6-0); Motion passed unanimously.
Time of adjournment: 4:55 PM
Signature Page
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Date: ___________, Date: ___________,
Rich Lepper, Board Chair Natalie Rekemeyer, Recording Secretary
Property Maintenance Appeals Board