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Fwd: Post construction storm water ordinance
Bob Kindred
to:
Ann Campbell,Ann Campbell, Steve Schainker,John C Joiner
03/04/2014 03:57 PM
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Judy K Parks,Diane R Voss
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FYI,since you weren't included in the original email.
Bob
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From: "Chuck Winkleblack"<chuck(a,hunziker.com>
Date: March 4,2014 at 1:31:30 PM CST
To: "Matthew Goodman"<m c-fightingburrito.com>,"Tim Gartin"<timothy.gartin((�amesattorneys.com>,
"Amber Corrieri"<amber.corrieri agmail.com>,"Chris Nelson"<nelson.ames(&-outlook.com>, "Peter
Orazem"<pforazem ,gmail.com>,"Peter Orazem" <pfo(a,iastate.edu>,gloriabetcherwardl(&,gmail.com,
"Tracy Warner"<twarner u,city.ames.ia.us>,"Bob Kindred"<BKindred a city.ames.ia.us>, "Eric Cowles"
<ecowles(,�),city.ames.ia.us>
Subject: Post construction storm water ordinance
To all concerned:
After reading through the summary of conclusions for tonight's council meeting I have the following thoughts
or comments:
We are supportive of the efforts and the ordinance however there still are a number of questions in addition to
the ones that are before you tonight. I will start by addressing the ones outlined in the staff report.
A. Agree with the staff report that it would be a monumental task to create the design guidelines from scratch
so it makes sense to use the IDNR manual
B. Agree with staff recommendation but would add some sort of incentive for redevelopment projects. If an
incentive is able to be added then you can accomplish two goals. The most efficient use of the land
(maximizing the site)and accomplishing what is needed for storm water quantity and quality. Some of the
underground storage systems are very expensive. If you don't have a large project it is not economically
feasible to do some of those alternative methods. In that case you end up using valuable land for storm water
treatment and it under utilizes our land resources. This will be a real dis-incentive for re-purposing some of
our older parts of town.
C. No problem with the buffer strips,agree with staffs recommendation.
D. I understand the need for financial security for the improvements. I prefer to do it at the time of final plat
on larger projects and at the time of building permit rather then site plan approval on smaller or individual site
proj ects.
E. Maintenance concerns are a BIG issue. Staff recommendation is a huge change from current policy and
not one that I am in favor of. The mowing and ongoing maintenance should absolutely stay with the home
owners association in my opinion. The major projects should remain with the city. The home owners
associations have a hard time getting people to be on the boards when the tasks are very simple(mowing,
snow removal, lighting,etc..) The monitoring of these improvements is a difficult task that can not be done by
the average home owner. This option would ask the residents to pay for their own major improvements within
their subdivision as well as paying into the sanitary sewer fund that pays for all of the other neighborhoods in
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town. These new subdivisions will have a much better system for the environment to begin with(that they are
paying for up front)and then they are being asked to pay twice in the future. If the city maintains its current
policy of having the residents pay for the day to day maintenance and the city pay for large capital projects
that seems fair since the fund that everyone pays into pays for the capital improvements. If these
improvements are installed correctly and are functioning correctly they will need maintenance over time,that
is why the exist!! Not knowing what some of these costs will be in the future makes it very hard to put money
aside by the home owners association.
F. I have had a hard time getting cost estimates on what the bond will cost. There seems to be little historical
data on this type of bond. There are many for streets,pipes,etc.. not as many for growing native grasses and
bio-swales. It is an additional cost that will be paid by the home owners and added to the cost of the housing.
I do understand the need to secure the improvements and see that they are correctly installed.
G. We are in agreement with this but want some clarification on the definition. Is the 3 feet above the 100
year water surface elevation calculated from the top of the window well or from the bottom of the window that
sets within the window well?? If it is the first one that is not an issue,if it is the latter it is a problem.
H. It is my belief that some waiver provision should be included but not sure the best way to implement it. I
agree with the concept but not sure how the fees in lieu will be calculated. This will mostly be for
redeveloping areas so don't think it will be used all that often but do agree that some provision in the code
would be helpful.
1. I think that the waiver process will be used very in frequently. It may be very important in helping some
unusual cases or projects get off the ground. My preference would be to have this come before the council for
resolution. To appoint a board that will rarely be used does not seem very effective. Let the municipal
engineer and the developers engineer make the case before the council and let the council decide.
I have a number of concerns about the specific language in the actual ordinance itself. Hopefully we will have
time to go through that and work out the language to benefit all. It is also important to remember that this will
be implemented the same time and for the first time as the conservation ordinance. There will most certainly
be things that need to be modified when we move this from a concept to actual practice.
Does the data exist on some of the other ordinances from other surrounding communities? It seems like we
do that a lot when looking at ordinances regarding zoning, land use and many other topics. Tracy and Pat
have mentioned that there are a number of them out there. Is ours more or less comprehensive or costly then
the others. Does it not make sense to compare with others??
If you like I can discuss my specific concerns about the language issues at the council meeting this evening or
we can save that for the 25th when the ordinance is scheduled to come back to council.
We have been working on this a long time but it is in all of our best interest to spend the time to get it right so
that we don't have to come back very many times to modify it. The reason the questions are coming up now is
that we are planning on implementing many of these things in the subdivisions along Grant Ave. Our
engineers also have several questions regarding the interpretation of the specific ordinance.
Thanks
Charles E. Winkleblack, CRB
Broker Associate
Hunziker&Associates, Realtors
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