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l l of Science and Technologv Ames, Iowa 50011-2020
Iowa State �_JYll1�eC$
Vice President for Student Affairs
March 22, 1989 311 Beardshear Hall
515-294-4420
Mr. Douglas Martin, President
Government of the Student Body
15 Memorial Union
Dear Doug:
You have requested that I react to the proposal that you are going to
present to the Ames City Council regarding modification of a city or-
dinance to permit underage people to enter establishments that sell
alcohol .
I know you have extensively researched other university communities
1 and have found that many of them do permit people under the age of 21
to enter the establishment to be part of the activities other than
drinking alcohol . I believe it is sensible to consider this pos-
sibility in the community of Ames where there are approximately 8,000
university students who live either in the residence halls, Greek
chapters, or in the campus town area that would be between the ages of
18 and 21 . There is merit for allowing this group of people who have
friends who are 21 or older to enjoy social activities that center
around music, dancing and/or just socializing to legally be able to go
into bars.
I have talked with many students of this age group who just want to be
where their friends are rather than having to spend several hours a
week ostracized socially from the rest of the group. I realize that
being inside an establishment would put this age group closer to where
alcohol is being served, but as we all know, this age group is able to
obtain alcohol through various means in this community. I feel this
change in the ordinance would not necessarily make alcohol any more
accessible than it is now. Our present ordinance forces those under
twenty-one to go to private parties where state laws and local or-
dinances are violated. It might even make the whole phenomenon of
drinking less attractive to those under age.
I do not know why the City of Ames passed this ordinance excluding
underage people from bars many years ago. Similar communities allow
this to happen. Perhaps there was more need for it when the drinking
age was at 18 or 19. I see less of a need for it when the legal
drinking age is 21 .
I support your proposal if it includes some practical ways for the
management of the bar to assure that underage participants would not
have access to alcohol . Your proposal has merit because of the
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gregate -- some with alcohol , some without.people of similar ages to objective proposal with reasonable solutionsf eYou la png tot this an
alcohol , I feel the City Council will give the proposal the respectful
review that is needed. access to
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Vice President for Student Affairs
cc President Eaton
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March 06 , 1989
Mr . Douglas DuogIaa Martin, President
Government of Student Body �
w� Iowa State University �
15 Memorial Union
Ames , Iowa 50011
Dear Mr . Martin :
=� Thank you for your correspondence of March 02 ' ' o�eru ug t l989 co i be
"Over/Under Ordinance" currently being considered by various
interests in Ames , Iowa . As you are aware theo
College
community consists of over 40, 000 Texas A&~" students and
many similar interests and concerns .
ut� uod reflects
The enforcement of alcohol regulations currently is a joint
responsibility of the local Police Department and the
Texas aAlcobolio Beverage Commission . The fair and consistent enforcement em eo
t»f unlawful sales and oolaw�o� poaoeasi«o V� aIonboI remains aooutiouiug , high impact issue to both the University Population aswell as the community at large. Approximately fifty (50) Minor ioP»aaeaoiou violations are discovered each month at variouseotabliobmeota within the community in addition to approximately
five (5) unlawful sale violations .
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The Police Department currently enforces the drinking age in b b
primarily two methods . Most establishments are located in a bars y
concentrated area within College Station . This area is closely
monitored during Thursday, Friday, and Saturday nights by uniformed
Police officers assigned to foot beats who carefully monitor t
wuo may be under the age of Jl in poaaeaaioo of an alcoholiconae
beverage . As you know, liquor laws in the State of Texas
person 18 years of age or older to lawfully euter . S�cvoe�aadaIlmwba
Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission supplements ^ ��" c e
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random covert surveillance of liquor establishments .
patrols b�
indicate that arrests per month are similar to u�� ^ Statistics
police . those made by local
It is a problem to enforce the various laws within establishments
that contain a large number of patrons . obviously, when
is made the effectiveness of the officers " eo one arrest
is lost . The fact remains that alargeassignedthismission percentage of the
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University' s population do frequent the various liquor
establishments , particularly those offering social activities .
Probably the most effective control is the administrative law of
Texas placing responsibility upon the liquor establishment owner to
self-regulate those individuals who choose not to abide the current
law. The owner ' s license , therefore , is placed in extreme jeopardy
if he knowingly permits under age individuals to consume alcohol
upon his premises , or if he (an employee) makes a sale to a minor
under the age of 21 .
The Police Department would view the current situation of
individuals frequenting liquor establishments who are under age as a
problem. But not to the degree one may expect . The number of
individuals , noise, and the difficulty of enforcing liquor laws in
these establishments are extreme issues that we face, primarily, in
the Fall and Spring seasons of the year . However , we also believe
that with an aggressive educational campaign , University support ,
and voluntarily compliance by the liquor business owners , these
problems can be minimized .
We would have one suggestion for you to consider when deliberating
the positive and negative impacts upon your community. In addition
to relying upon personal identification, which may be altered , an
' effective control device is the careful monitoring of individuals
entering liquor establishments concerning age and placing readily
identifiable indicators on their person to allow both law
enforcement personnel and business employees to determine age . This
program is commonly known as "Banding" and involves a color coded
wrist band to be worn visibly on the left wrist which either
indicates over or under 21 years of age .
The enforcement of liquor laws in a predominantly college oriented
community is a challenge. However , we believe a firm posture of
consistent enforcement, education of both students and liquor
establishment operators , and a keen awareness by the general public
of the tragedies that may result from the irresponsibility of
consuming alcohol is a compromise in which all entities may benefit .
If you have further questions , please contact me .
Sincerely,
MICHAEL L. STROPE
CHIEF OF POLICE
cc : Ron Ragland , City Manager
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ity of Champaign �r`
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Eouncil
a % 02 North Neil Street
;HL ^7u-)`;aBilompoign, Illinois 61820
Telephone (217) 351-4417
March 15, 1989
Douglas L. Martin, President
Government of the Student Body
Iowa State University of Science and Technology
15 Memorial Union
Ames, Iowa 50011
Dear Doug:
You were interested in the Champaign policy reflected in a 19-year-old bar
limit. This provision grew out of concern that a majority of Council
members had concerning the proliferation of keg parties in unlicensed
premises. The philosophy of the 19-year-old bar limit was that, if
enforced, liquor licensees would, for the most part, prevent individuals of
high school age from entering the bars.
While we recognize that there is an increased ability for 19-year olds once
inside a bar to drink illegally, we felt it as preferable for persons to be
in premises which were inspected by the City and certified safe versus
premises elsewhere which were not inspected.
The current arrangement is a fragile accommodation. Should there be serious
deficiencies in the efforts of licensees to keep out persons under the age
of 19 years, the City Council indicated that it would reconsider the 19-year
old limit.
Equally, we are concerned about keg sales, and draft legislation has been
prepared that would in effect cause sales of kegs in the City of Champaign
to be registered and open for inspection on any given weekend by the Police
Department.
As in all areas of human weakness, what we have is a management problem.
There is no "solution."
I hope this has been of help to you. Good luck in your efforts in Ames.
Sincerely,
Mayor Dannel McCollum
Local Liquor Control Commissioner
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The following story ran in the Iowa State Daily. It is a good portrayal
of the feelings of many college students today at Iowa State
University. I urge the council to read this article.
Ames , stands alo'ne
Students seek revisions
Jn:,city's bar ordinance .
by Melinda Mooty
"The issue is very simple," he
convince.the council to completely says."It's what the law is.We have
Kelli Hopkins and Tony Allen, revoke the ordinance, they hope a law and it is not for those who are
have dined at every restaurant and some strong revisions will be made underage to drink—so why do
seen every movie in Ames. as a compromise. (students)want to be in the bars?"
As Iowa State students,Kelli,20, But as students wait for the Goodland says he does not think
and Tony, 22, can't always go out ordinance to come under review, Ames should change its city or-
with their friends because Kelli Kelli and Tony say they are still dinance just because the other state
isn't old enough to get into the bars. searching for activities on the university cities allow those who
Both of them agree this dilemma weekends: Kelli says the issue of are 19-years-old or older into the
has put a strain on,their relation- not being able to go out with college bars.He says he is a firm believer in
ship from the beginning. friends lost its humor when it began the position that Ames officials
"This affected us right off the bat to inhibit her and Tony's social life. should enforce what is best for this
because when I met him, I was 18 "For me,it's not a matter of being community.
and he was going to be 20," Kelli allowed to drink," Kelli says, "but "I don't think 3 have to justify
says. "He could,get into the bars all of my life I've gotten along better (the law)," Goodland says. "Every-
because of the grandfather clause, with those who are older than me." body's situation is so different. I
and I had missed it by a mile. It She says that because of this, don't care if(other cities) had (an
severely limits where you can and most of her friends have either ordinance) and we didn't, or they
cannot go." graduated already or are old don't and we do.You do what's best
Currently, Ames stands alone as enough to go to the bars. for your own community. So the
the only city in Iowa with a popula- "When you have one-half to comparisons become irrelevant."
tion of 45,000 or more that does not three-lburths of a population that is Kelli and Tony say when they see
allow minors into the bars. Cities under-age you have to look at the minors at other Universities get-
such as Cedar Rapids, Cedar Falls, situation,"Tony says."The bars are ting into the bars it makes them
Iowa City, Des Moines, Dubuque, going to be hurting soon because wonder why Ames ever adopted a
Council Bluffs and Davenport have they aren't going to have the num- city ordinance against it in the first
let the bar owners decide what age bers. I don't know why they (bar place.Kelli also says she wonders if
groups are allowed into their es- owners;) can't realize that. On Sat- it is still applicable in, today's'
tablishments.
These seven cities enforce the
state law,which asserts that people , urday nights it's dead in Campus- community.
under the age of 21 cannot possess town. You don't see a bunch of However,ISU Vice President for
or consume alcohol. This law does people on the street barhopping like Student Affairs Thomas Thielen
not stipulate who is allowed to enter they u.,ed to." says he thinks the Ames city or-,
a liquor establishment. This isn't surprising,considering dinance is due for a repeal. ,
However, the city of Ames has the number of students at ISU who "I would hope the community
taken this law one step further by are old enough to drink. would give this ordinance a good
passing an ordinance that does not According to Marsha McDowell, look,"he says. "Other communities
allow minors into bars unless the ISU statistics clerk, nearly 42 per- have(minors in bars)and I think it
alcohol has been put away or the
establishments draw more than 50 cent of ISU s student body is under could be effective here. I think we
percent of their revenues from food the age of 21. She says this means rieed to go to school on the methods
sales. that 10,7 10-students-ate looking for other cities have used."
Recently, members of,the ISU weekend activities that the bars Thielen says he is in favor of
y, cannot provide. .'offering students a place to dance
Government of the Student Body But Ames Mayor F. Paul Good- and listen to music with their,
said they will' approach the City land says that he does not think friends as long as the alcohol could
Council at the end of February with allowing minors into the bars is the be effectively monitored.
recommendations that will either answer. He says the city ordinance "You have to have practical ways
lead to the revocation or modifica- plays a crucial role in keeping to make sure minors are not drink-
tion of the current ordinance. Doug minors out of bars and away from ing,"he says."We haven't got a fool-
Martin says if the students cannot alcohol. proof way right now and maybe this
- wouldn't be foolproof either,but we
can try to make it work.
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Because of difficulties in en- were different times and people
forcing Iowa's age-21 drinking law,
Goodland says he thinks it is im- were very opposed to thqt."
portant for the City Council to Since the ordinance passed in
1971, it has been amended three
times, with the most recent change
coming last month. The ordinance
now states that minors can be al-
continue restricting minors from lowed into the bars only if no al-
bars. cohol is' served on the premises
"Fundamentally, I think if 18 is during their visit and only if the
going to be our age for an adult, police chief is notified. Council
then we ought to be able to do all of members say this amendment was
the things adults do,"he says."But passed so that bar owners would no
that's not the way it is.You are not Ionger have to get permission from
able to drink,according to the law, the City Council to hold a,special
until you reach 21,and that makes bar night in Campustown.
it awfully difficult for enforce- According to Ames city doc- But Nick Jackson, co-owner of
ment." uments, it was 18 years ago when Cy's Lounge, 119 Main, says he
Goodland says keeping minors the first city ordinance was passed thinks it is wrong that the city
out of bars has become a year-round making it illegal for under-age regulates who can or cannot be
struggle for police officers and bar persons to be in liquor es- allowed into the private bars.
owners in Ames and that taking tablishments. "I think the state Liquor Com-_
this ordinance away would make it J.R. Castner, former Ames city mission has the right to impose-a
too difficult to enforce the state manager who now resides in Sioux law such as this, but not the city,
drinking age. City, says the original city or- Jackson says.
However,Kelli says she does not dinance banning minors from the However, Ames, City Attorney
think it is fair that she must con- bars was passed on Dec. 31, 1971. John Klaus says although the or-
tinue to hunt for alternative ac- He says the action was taken at the dinance has never been tested in
tivities on the weekends. She says same time the City Council granted court, he thinks the judge would
the state allows her to make in- the first liquor license to a bar in the rule in favor of the city. -
dependent decisions at 18,yet she is Campustown area. "The theory is that the city has
notr allowed to drink and,go to the He says council,members felt the governmental power to enact an
bars in Ames. that there would be less controversy ordinance or a law that regulates
"My big beef is that when yoware if an ordinance making it illegal for the conduct of the people,as long as
18 you are allowed to vote, be minors to be in the bars was passed it is reasonably and rationally ap-
independent of your parents, be -with the allocation of the first liquor plied,"he says."We believe the city
responsible for loans and defaults, license near campus. ordinance is rationally and rea-
but you can't drink," she says. "I . "When I came to Ames in 1964 to sonably related to the citizens and
think that stinks.It should be all or be the city manager,there were no that it should stand up in court."
nothing." bars in the Campustown area and According to the state Liquor
Kelli says- for this reason she there was basically an unwritten Commission,any city can impose an
thinks the Ames ordinance restricts law that there would be no alcohol ordinance at the local level as long
her rights as a student to socialize ; in the campus area,"he says. as it does not interfere with the
with her friends. After a few years, Castner says state law.
"The big thing is that there is no the City Council decided it would Rick Wells,owner of Thumbs Up!
place for people to go socially— allow at least one bar to open up in bar, 113 Welch Ave.,which lost its
unless you go to the Union and the University area. lease Saturday, disagrees with
drink coffee,"Kelli says."Don't get "In 1964 there weren't even any, fellow bar owner Jackson on the
me wrong, there's nothing wrong liquor stores in Ames," he says. issue of the city imposing such an
with that, but there, need to be "You had to go to Nevada to get ordinance.
alternatives. alcohol.The college community just "I think the city has a right to do
John Weaver, an ISU student didn't want it here because of the it because we have a situation they
who transferred from the Univer- number of young people. Those have to control," he says. "It's just
sity of Northern Iowa, says he like telling citizens what side of the
thought allowing the minors into
the bars in Cedar Falls offered the street they can drive on t keeps keepwhas I
students the social environment corners they can turn at. t
they wanted. the order. The city has a mandated
"Up at UNI you.could all go out responsibility to protect that."
with your friends instead of only Wells says because lawmakers
half of the group being allowed in don't think bar owners would work
(the bars),"he says."You could just to keep alcohol out of the hands of
walk in and get a stamp saying the minors, he doesn't see the-law
whether you were of age or not. changing.He says he would only be
There wasn't a need for fake IDs." in favor of allowing minors into his
But regardless of what other bar if he were relieved of liability.
If they had a way to limit or
cities in Iowa are doing,officials say
control liability, I would have no
the Ames city ordinance has been problems with it," he says. "If not
on the books for a number of years. _ ...�..
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I'm not real for it. I think itl is an provide the council with an effective
accident waiting to happen. I don't method of patrolling the bars so
think (bars) would be around for that under-age students could be
long if the bar owner_s weren't pro- given a place to socialize. "On the other hand, I'm not open-
--•tected." However, Martin and other stu- minded in that our main task is to
Jackson, of Cy's Lounge, agrees dents say they are concerned that help enforce what is the law,
and he says that although he thinks their proposal may fall on deaf ears. , whether I agree with the law or
bar owners should be able to decide Martin says that the mayor said he not."
who comes into their es- would'veto any bill the City Council As City Council members await
tablishments, he would not be in passed that would allow minors in the GSB proposal,a few of them say
favor of allowing minors into his bars. they are unsure of their position on
own bar. He says the high percent- "I don't know if he'll (Goodland) the issue and the history behind
age of people who would try to buy change his• mind," Martin says. Ames'ordinance.
alcohol and the extra people he "But he has to be making as- Ann Campbell, city council-
alcohol
would have to hire to supervise the sumptions,about some of the things woman, says, "It's something that
bar would place too big a burden on we are proposing." has been on the books for a long .
his business. Goodland says that he is unsure time. It long predates me, but I'm.
sure there was a,reason it went into
effect.It's generally not our practice
to go cruising over old ordinances to
see why they were first passed."
C O m m U n�t l e s John Thurston,a city councilman
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have (minors in bars),
and I think it could be y `
effective here. I think we; . '
need to go to school on who was on the council 18 years ago when the I ordinance was first.
the methods other cities s passed,says he can't remember the
have Used." exact circumstances around the
issue.
/ "I can't-remember why we did it
—Thomas Thielen unless it is in the minutes (of the
ISU Vice President meeting),",he says."There was a lot
for Student Affairs of stuff going on during that time
such as protests, but I don't '.
remember it being done to get back
at students. I really don't recall
having that much discussion over
it."
But Wells also says that the whether he will actually veto a Martin, who will present a prb-
dwindling number of students at decision made by the council,but if posal to the City Council at the end
ISU is going to have a negative he did so,it would have little impact of February to revise the ordinance,
effect on Ames'bar business in the on the outcome of the council's says he feels Ames citizens don't
future if the ordinance is not re- decision. { like the idea of change.
pealed or further amended soon. "I don't understand the mindset
"In the long run, if nothing "That (veto) doesn't mean much of Ames, that they feel this way,"-
changes, I see some bars going by because (council members) can Martin says. "Look at all of the
the wayside," he says. "We've lost overrule the veto in 30 days," he other universities in Iowa and
our lease and we are looking for says."Sometimes I say things to stir across the U.S.It is rare to find•one
some place else to go,but anymore, things up. The GSB 'said `we are that doesn't allow (minors in bars)
bigger is not necessarily better." going to go through and pass this,' already."
He says that because the bars are and I said, `Let's cut the issue.' But Police Chief Ballantine says
not filling to their capacity-as they Otherwise,there,is not much con- he disagrees with Martin about the
did, in the past, it is becoming versation. It stirred up conversa- attitude of the citizens.
increasingly difficult to pay the rent tion." "I actually think that we are a
on a large bar. Goodland says that although he Tittle more liberal than the run of
But Jackson and Wells are not said he would veto a decision to 'the mill Iowa people,"he says."But,.
alone in. wanting to see:the city overthrow the ordinance,he thinks I also think that this particurar,
ordinance revised. he will be open to what the students time for this issue is.bad because of
present to the council. the events of the past,year. I don't
Members of the GSB also feel "I'm open-minded in the sense think the permanent citizens want;
' the council should take a second that I don't think I'm unreasonable to see something (the ordinance)
1 look at the ordinance, and GSB if they(GSB)have a rkasonable way
President Doug Martin says he and to monitor (the minors)," he says
other members will bring a proposal
before the City Council at the end of
February.He says the GSB hopes to \
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that allows minors in bars
liberalized right at this point."
Ballantine says that although he
will be open to listening to the
students' arguments, he does not "We used to have a similar or
see a workable plan in the near double check these things.The bar-
future. tender and the barmaids need to difficult
(to Ames'), but we had a
"It is my feeling that the or- double check if they think there is difficult time enforcing it,"she says.
The Des Moines ordinance used
dinance will stay the same," he some reason tobelieve the kid is not
says."I don't see a radical change.I of age." al read that minors could only at
allowed in an establishment that
told the GSB that I can't think of a
set of plans I will approve,but I am Both Kelli and Tony say it grossed 50 percent of its revenue
keeping an open mind." makes them sick how much money through food sales.But Mosher says
As the proposal is being put ISU students pour into the com- it was hard to distinguish between
City , . munity of Ames while have so little which establishments were meeting,
together for the Ci Council Kelli
who has been active on the Veishea say in the formation of the law. the requirement and which were
ys all.of the "When you look at it and you ask not.
planning committee,sa
ideas in the world cannot provide
if the City Council is going o "We didn't think 'we had the
ability,o sa `Give us your doc-
the element of motivation that she support the kids or the citizens and Y Y
umenta,'"she says."It's not Like we
feels is missing.in the city.of Ames. where the votes are coming from,I
She says that it is difficult toget think the answer is obvious who wouldn't like to have an ordinance,
students and citizens excited about they are going to listen to," Tony but it's just that we don't seem,to
_ says. "But we make this city go. It have,the confidence Ames has (to
wasn't Ames and then ISU. It was enforce it)."
` Ballantine says the-fact that the
any activity in Ames. "I think the ISU, and then Ames built itself
problem is that le aren't will- ordinance was revoked in Des Moi-
peop around the college." nes illustrates the problems big
ing to work at this,"she says."-Look
cities have when they try to control
at the Field House (bar) in Iowa
a situp
City. That didn't just happen• It one that may not be a
takes work. �' number one priority at the time.
The Field House bar has become
But Mayor Goodland says that "My guess is that for a city like
a popular hangout for minors and
g students need to learn that if they Des Moines,which has other urbanroblems, it is not worth the effort
older students alike at the Univer want to make changes in the city to try and control something like
sity of Iowa. law, they need to run for a city
According to Bill Sueppel, Iowa council position.He says in the past, this," he says. "I happen to think
City assistant city attorney, allow- out of 27,000 students at ISU, only that we have the right approach
ing minors into the bars is to the 700 have ever bothered to .cast a when it comes to this matter,and I-
for city officials. think the other cities are behind
vote
advantage of bar owners because of and we are ahead."
the number of under-age students Citizens in other towns say they He predicts that cities like Iowa
at the university. have had problems implementing a Cit will ignore the problem until it
"At this point we have not had city ordinance like the one Ames y just as the have
any major problems, and if there is has because the Code of Iowa does becomes too big,j Y
a public outcry against it then we not designate who can or cannot be ignored other important issues such,
would have to look at adopting a allowed into bars. as tailgating.
city ordinance,"Sueppel says."The Carol Mosher, Des Moines as-
check (in the bars) is done on an sistant city attorney, says the Des
individual basis, but most bars Moines city ordinance barring mi-
provide a stamp of some form for nors from bars was revoked two
those who are not of age. We have years ago. .
had some problems with minors in
bars when Rolice perform a periodic
bar check."'
Monitoring under-age drinking
is a challenge because students
come up with a number of methods
to cheat the system,he says.
"It's tough toenforce, because
what happens is the kids get a
stamp and then the first thing they
' do is go to washroom and clean it
off," he says. "So the bar needs to. J
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After the Veishea*riots last
May, University officials and stu=
dents and City Council members
resolved that they would make
more of an effort to provide ISU being taken to improve the situa- provide or do that kind of thing. I
` students with alternative activities. tion. He says staff members in the found those things that were mean-
Memorial Union are studying ways ingful to me. I don't think it is the '
Police Chief Ballantine says he their electronic machines and open City Council's role. The University
does not feel City Council members areas could be used more effec- has a lot of things to do."
have provided students with the tively. Although the issue will come to
alternatives they spoke of this fall. But despite the fact that officials head within the next few weeks,
"Nobody -is providing :ft, and I don't feel activities are being pro- Goodland says he is doubtful that
don't know if they can,"'he says."It vided,Mayor Goodland says he does will be the end of the controversy.
has been so ingrained in our society not think it should be the city's "It's an endless process,"he says,
that you have to have alcohol to responsibility to find entertainment "Nothing ever ends since Adam and
have fun that I,don't know what can for students. Eve got out of the garden.There are
be done.Anything the University or- "When I was in school I never no panaceas to life, and what you.,
--city provides will be fine for awhile,, asked anyone to offer me anything," try to do is you try to work out those
but it won't last long..Anyone who he says. "I went to college for nine things that you believe work best.
Y doesn't admit to this doesn't realize years. Four years undergraduate, And if others think other things
the facts of life." then law school and then seminary. work best then they can run for
Vice President Thielen says he I never asked the community to office."
' agrees that the University has not
provided the activities it talked
about last fall,but he says steps are
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have a law and it is not
for those who are un-
derage to drink—so
why do (students) want.
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to be in the bars?"
— F. Paul Goodland
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Ames Mayor
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"I don't understand the mindset of Ames that they
feel this way. Look at all of the other universities in
Iowa and across the U.S. It is rare to find one that.
doesn't allow(minors in bars)already."
_Doug Martin's
GSB President
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Project Input at Lowa State University. Project Input is a statistically
accurate survey o the feelings of Iowa State students.
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Project Input was created by the GSB Senate on August 25, 1988, to gather
student opinion on campus issues. Specifically, Project Input Survey #1 had
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1) Gather qualitative and quantitative information on student perceptions of
the Government c)f the Student Body.
2) Gather student opinion on issues of campus safety, arming the ISU Police,
University office hours, and a possible Ames City Ordinance which would
allow minors into bars.
(A copy of the survey is included in Appendix A of this report.)
11. Research Metltodolo
A committee to identify research issues was formed. Members of the
committee are Gary Holley (Off Campus), Lori Jeske (Education), and Molly
Olinger (TRA). For future surveys two at-large members will need to be
appointed to mei!t the composition requirements of the committee as
delineated in Emergency Legislation 88-003, Project Input.
A random sample of names of ISU students was obtained from the Registrar's
Office. The sample contained both graduate and undergraduate students.
Phone interview! were conducted from the GSB Office during the evenings
of November 14, 15, and 16. Demographic data of the survey sample were
checked against University totals.
' Survey % University %
Me, 67A 59.3
Women 32.6 40.7
Undergraduate 84.9 84.3
' Graduate 15.1 15.7
Undergraduate College
' Agriculture 09.4 09.1
Business 083 08.1
Design 123 08.9
Education 043 08.4
Engineering 21.0 21.2
Family/Consumer Sciences 063 06.4
Sciences and Hurranities 36.6 35.9
Veterinary Medic'.ne 01A 01.8
A survey with 325 respondents has a margin of error of approximately plus or
minus five percent.
Quantitative data were entered into a Macintosh SE computer, and simple
analysis was performed u:;ing the OverVUE database program. Qualitative
responses were tabulated ')y the Project Input Coordinator.
% Question 11. Should the Ames City Council pass an ordinance which
gives bar owners the option of admitting minors into their
establishments?
All Responses Under Age 21 21 and Over
Yes 241 (74.2%) 122 (83.0%) 119 (66.9%)
No 073 (22.5) 024 (16.3) 049 (27.5)
DK 011 (03.4) 001 (00.7) 010 (05.6)
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Are there enough weekend activities for underage students?
Yes.........................................................33%
no...........................................................66%
don't know/no answer....................1%
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